this seems to be a favorite topic to bring up to any witnesses who post on any website where there are any opposers, either here or topix or anywhere.. so, here is the one and only place i will be discussing it.
who can prove that witnesses are specifically told not to post on websites about them?.
You damn JW's in good standing get off my lawn!
Admonishment, btw, quickly turns into a fullblown discovery session by the body of elders once you tell them you ignored the WTBTS's "admonishment" about apostate websites. There is no getting around the WTBTS's stand and expectations of JW's in the congregation. If the elders find out you have been visiting this or any other apostate website, blog or otherwise, that is your ass. :)
jw talk radio will launch this month on wed 5/11/11, 12pm pst.. .
here is a sneak peak of jw talk radio's first discussion topic.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft83y58xyy0.
Yes, he talks about the word "unnatural" blah blah blah which assumes without evidence that homosexuality itself is unnatural. Then compares homosexuality to beastiality- ridiculous distraction technique which shows he is hiding something. He also bullies, and does not address the context of Romans 1 in which Paul was addressing a scenario that involves temple prostitution- innate heterosexuals with spouses who went against their natural sexuality to have sex with temple prostitutes for favor from God or the gods. This was a common practice in Paul's day.
i really don't care much for jw's at my door, or at anyone's door.
this chauvinistic, fanatical bully-a-hole, however, is one of the worst examples of a christian i have ever seen.
the jw's handled themselves very well in the face of this ridiculous bullying and taunting by this so-called christian attempting to school the jw's about god and the bible.
My aunt, a JW of course, often behaved like the bearded psycho in the video.
i really don't care much for jw's at my door, or at anyone's door.
this chauvinistic, fanatical bully-a-hole, however, is one of the worst examples of a christian i have ever seen.
the jw's handled themselves very well in the face of this ridiculous bullying and taunting by this so-called christian attempting to school the jw's about god and the bible.
I tried to be very calm and mellow when I was in. But if some guy followed me, kept running his mouth, pointing at me and sticking his finger in my face I very well might have lost my temper.
In my city, San Diego, a guy gets in your space and puts is finger in your face, that is considered a threat to your person and is interpreted as grounds for self-defense. Punching him in the throat would most likely not lead to any jail time.
i really don't care much for jw's at my door, or at anyone's door.
this chauvinistic, fanatical bully-a-hole, however, is one of the worst examples of a christian i have ever seen.
the jw's handled themselves very well in the face of this ridiculous bullying and taunting by this so-called christian attempting to school the jw's about god and the bible.
I really don't care much for JW's at my door, or at anyone's door. This chauvinistic, fanatical bully-a-hole, however, is one of the worst examples of a Christian I have ever seen. The JW's handled themselves very well in the face of this ridiculous bullying and taunting by this so-called Christian attempting to school the JW's about god and the bible. Sometimes, you just gotta score one for the cult members.
jw talk radio will launch this month on wed 5/11/11, 12pm pst.. .
here is a sneak peak of jw talk radio's first discussion topic.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft83y58xyy0.
I would like to ear someones take on youtubes dr walter martin on homosexuality
Martin was Satan in a Sunday hat, a terribly dishonest man when it came to discussing homosexuality and the Bible, but his subterfuge and false arguments are not tough to crack. Back in the 80's, it was very difficult to argue with Martin because research on this topic was very scarce. Martin seemed to wipe up the floor with anyone who tried to debate him. He is was a monster with subterfuge and distraction techniques. If he were alive today, there are many theologians and ministers who could clean his clock.
This is what Martin wrote about those who argued that homosexuality was not a sin:
"Now there are people who say, 'Well, there are convincing arguments put forward by homosexuals who are good theologians.' There is no good theological theologian; and the reason why there isn’t any good homosexual theologian is, to adopt the position, you must vitiate Biblical revelation. And this is something nobody wants to face. I am vigorously opposed to the prostitution of Holy Scripture in defense of what God has considered one of the most vile of all acts."
Here, Martin's statement not only falsely assumes dogmatically that homosexuality is condemned by Scripture, but that anyone who says different, no matter how scholarly their work might be, is wrong by virtue of them defending homosexuality in the first place. In other words, "you are only defending homosexuality and proving through accurate scholarly means with cited sources that homosexuality is not a sin because you are a lousy cock-sucker . . . which makes you a liar."
LOL, THAT was his argument.
jw talk radio will launch this month on wed 5/11/11, 12pm pst.. .
here is a sneak peak of jw talk radio's first discussion topic.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft83y58xyy0.
Sent you a PM AK MCGRATH :)
jw talk radio will launch this month on wed 5/11/11, 12pm pst.. .
here is a sneak peak of jw talk radio's first discussion topic.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft83y58xyy0.
The truth is there are very few biblical texts that speak about homosexuality in the bible. How people can take these texts and use them as justification for abuse and violence towards gays is beyond me.
Yet, they do. It is fear. It is ignorance.
Awesome! So bin Laden has apparently been killed, and this is cause for mass celebrations, perhaps because people believe that the cycle of evil will end with this murder.
But governments don't solve the problem of evil, because governments always need an enemy to scare you with -- the Kaiser, Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, drug dealers, terrorists, and so on and on.
But who is the enemy?
The death toll from American imperialism: more than 27,000,000 million people slaughtered worldwide.
Well, I guess 27,000,000 and one will make everything better now.
Even if we say that bin Laden needed to be captured or killed -- just look at the facts:
2 wars,
almost a million deaths,
and over 1.1 trillion dollars to make one person, Bin Ladin, stop breathing.
The one person the US government trained, funded, and armed to fight the soviets in the 1980's.
The same person the Taliban offered to hand over almost a year before 911 as long as the US government provided objective evidence linking Osama Bin Ladin to terrorism, which the US failed to do, even after the Taliban warned Washington that bin Laden was going to strike the US.
After 9/11, the Taliban again offered to turn over bin Laden to a neutral country or the Court of Justice in The Hague, even without evidence. This offer was rejected.
And proof? Colin Powell promised it would be provided. It never was. The British government put together a 21-page dossier on bin Laden, but admitted that it would not amount to a prosecutable case in a court of law.
Remember when Saddam Hussein was captured? That was cause for celebration as well.
And what changed?
If killing bin Laden is a great victory, then wonderful, good job. Now, cut the defense budget in half. Bring the troops home, because we're done.
And give us our fucking freedoms back. Stop the illegal wiretapping, the electronic serveillance of medical records, bank records, and credit card statements and library book records.
Give us our fucking freedoms back, and burn the Patriot Act in a public ceremony at Ground Zero.
What? That's not going to happen?
Then stop celebrating and wake up!
(by stefan molyneux)
jw talk radio will launch this month on wed 5/11/11, 12pm pst.. .
here is a sneak peak of jw talk radio's first discussion topic.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft83y58xyy0.
I'm not sure what the premise is. That the bible doesn't teach anti-gay teachings? Or, that it doesn't matter what the bible seems to contain?
Personally, I am an atheist and couldn't care less what the Bible has to say on any topic. However, there was a time when I held the words of the Bible, as most here did, in high regard and took them quite literally.
The idea here is that the Bible does not actually teach that homosexuality is wrong. It only matters to me because there are many gay Christians and JW's whose lives are being damaged by this erroneous teaching that is based on very poor language text translation, and its dogma completely absent of historical context.
Miner is going to share some research about the gay clobber passages found in the Bible and clear up a few misconceptions about the condemnation of homosexuality in the Bible.
