Tammy I get what you're saying...I'd maybe feel the same if I'd gotten out sooner with my family intact ...there are certainly some valuable learning curves from that experience...
Loz x
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What I don't regret about my experience with JW's
by tec inthey taught me to think for myself.. yes, you read that right, and no i'm not being sarcastic.
if i had walked into the church down the street, i might not ever have walked out.
i'm sure the doctrines are easier to swallow, and the freedoms are greater.
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If I'm so intelligent how did I get drawn in to it all?
by Lozhasleft ini consider myself an intelligent woman...maybe not strong on the 'common sense' front, but academically i've done pretty well...so...how on earth did i not see through it all when i was studying in the beginning???.
i remember worrying about their 'sales pitching' styles and their arrogance of believing they had the 'truth' ...but still i got involved and became totally immersed in it all.
i feel like i sacrificied our whole family to them, who now shun me.. yesterday, my new son in law, he's a lawyer, asked me how i could have believed it wasnt a cult (topical word this week here) he said he didnt understand how i could have been persuaded to believe it all and trust them with so much and for so many years...... i feel ashamed of myself that i did and that i brought all this upon our family...anyone else relate?.
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I can assure you Alice that my heart has been more than examined ... as well as severely broken more than once in that, and by that organisation...if you doubt it go read my introductory post on this forum and thats just a sample....
And despite them, I have never drawn away from the living God ...I assure you.
Loz x
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If I'm so intelligent how did I get drawn in to it all?
by Lozhasleft ini consider myself an intelligent woman...maybe not strong on the 'common sense' front, but academically i've done pretty well...so...how on earth did i not see through it all when i was studying in the beginning???.
i remember worrying about their 'sales pitching' styles and their arrogance of believing they had the 'truth' ...but still i got involved and became totally immersed in it all.
i feel like i sacrificied our whole family to them, who now shun me.. yesterday, my new son in law, he's a lawyer, asked me how i could have believed it wasnt a cult (topical word this week here) he said he didnt understand how i could have been persuaded to believe it all and trust them with so much and for so many years...... i feel ashamed of myself that i did and that i brought all this upon our family...anyone else relate?.
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So many of you have thought so deeply about this subject and your views are all so interesting and powerful to read....thank you so much for posting guys...
PSacramento - For the record...No I didnt know anything about those groups you mention except some cynicism that they were probably profiteers when I was older...but as a child I grew up in a small Welsh village here in fifties Britain. I came from a broken family which was unheard of in those days in that area, and as children we were treated abominably by the villagers and some family on the basis of their 'godliness' in their narrow minded and bigoted village churches and chapels. I suffered this for many years and despite my sincere belief in God, which stays with me still, I was only too happy to agree with the JWs about the hypocrisy and lack in Christendom's congregations. Perhaps that helps you to understand my biased viewpoint.
Loz x
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If I'm so intelligent how did I get drawn in to it all?
by Lozhasleft ini consider myself an intelligent woman...maybe not strong on the 'common sense' front, but academically i've done pretty well...so...how on earth did i not see through it all when i was studying in the beginning???.
i remember worrying about their 'sales pitching' styles and their arrogance of believing they had the 'truth' ...but still i got involved and became totally immersed in it all.
i feel like i sacrificied our whole family to them, who now shun me.. yesterday, my new son in law, he's a lawyer, asked me how i could have believed it wasnt a cult (topical word this week here) he said he didnt understand how i could have been persuaded to believe it all and trust them with so much and for so many years...... i feel ashamed of myself that i did and that i brought all this upon our family...anyone else relate?.
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I wanted all the answers to life's big questions...I had no respect for Christendom since I'd seen their fruits as a child...I looked at many religions especially after I heard about the JWs from a neighbour ...I tried to prove them wrong and couldnt...they did appear to be living by the bible...but it took years before I made the big commitment. I believed it was the very best thing I could do for our children, their lives and their futures.When I look at it now in the light of how things have turned out I think it all seems so obvious...the mind control, the power games, the deceit, and god only knows what happened to the love they are meant to have among themselves......
Loz x
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If I'm so intelligent how did I get drawn in to it all?
by Lozhasleft ini consider myself an intelligent woman...maybe not strong on the 'common sense' front, but academically i've done pretty well...so...how on earth did i not see through it all when i was studying in the beginning???.
i remember worrying about their 'sales pitching' styles and their arrogance of believing they had the 'truth' ...but still i got involved and became totally immersed in it all.
i feel like i sacrificied our whole family to them, who now shun me.. yesterday, my new son in law, he's a lawyer, asked me how i could have believed it wasnt a cult (topical word this week here) he said he didnt understand how i could have been persuaded to believe it all and trust them with so much and for so many years...... i feel ashamed of myself that i did and that i brought all this upon our family...anyone else relate?.
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I appreciate all your replies and am able to gain something from each of them, thank you ....right now I'm concluding that hindsight is a wonderful thing ...thats all..
Loz x
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If I'm so intelligent how did I get drawn in to it all?
by Lozhasleft ini consider myself an intelligent woman...maybe not strong on the 'common sense' front, but academically i've done pretty well...so...how on earth did i not see through it all when i was studying in the beginning???.
i remember worrying about their 'sales pitching' styles and their arrogance of believing they had the 'truth' ...but still i got involved and became totally immersed in it all.
i feel like i sacrificied our whole family to them, who now shun me.. yesterday, my new son in law, he's a lawyer, asked me how i could have believed it wasnt a cult (topical word this week here) he said he didnt understand how i could have been persuaded to believe it all and trust them with so much and for so many years...... i feel ashamed of myself that i did and that i brought all this upon our family...anyone else relate?.
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I consider myself an intelligent woman...maybe not strong on the 'common sense' front, but academically I've done pretty well...so...how on earth did I not see through it all when I was studying in the beginning???
I remember worrying about their 'sales pitching' styles and their arrogance of believing they had the 'truth' ...but still I got involved and became totally immersed in it all. I feel like I sacrificied our whole family to them, who now shun me.
Yesterday, my new son in law, he's a lawyer, asked me how I could have believed it wasnt a cult (topical word this week here) he said he didnt understand how I could have been persuaded to believe it all and trust them with so much and for so many years.....
I feel ashamed of myself that I did and that I brought all this upon our family...anyone else relate?
Loz x
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Verbal abuse and an apology
by Cagefighter ini have enjoyed the battles like any gladiator but i realize that my behaviour on and off the interenet is often seen as verbally abusive.
just because someone dissappoints me is not a reason to attack them or their character.
so to all those.... beks, dinah, sammieswife comes to mind i apologize.
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Cagefighter...It takes a man to apologize to people on a public forum....I am wondering about your 'abusive to women' issue...are you insecure around women? What was your relationship with your mother like? Although I'm not looking to blame her at all....just curious....
Loz x
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What causes the authority complex the WTS has? Or even common JWs? What drives the need to control others?
by miseryloveselders inhttp://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/194364/1/witnesses-cant-take-the-heat.
in the thread above, several posters made the point that if xjws could walk away from the religion without losing their family and close friends, then they wouldn't even bother worrying about the wts afterwards.
they would simply move on in life.
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I ponder this a great deal...I think they genuinely believe they are 'right' in what they're doing ...the GB I mean...they have become sincere in their own arrogance...which is altogether pretty sick...the only advantage to them that I can see is the power and glory and the self satisfaction of believing they're so righteous...?
Loz x
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Yep I think you'd need to have experienced the witness way of life too...
Loz x
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Standing up for myself, a lonely stand
by troubled mind ini have learned in my life that i am the only one i can trust to stand up for myself .. many times i wished others would have 'had my back', like when i was seven and my favorite teacher committed wrongful contact with my class....we didn't know the term pedofile back then , and children were not taken serious when they made complaints about teachers .
i wished my mom had been more protective and saved me from some ugly situations .
i knew at 10 yrs of age that wasn't going to be the case .
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I can identify with a lot of what you're saying... and was without any 'back up' for many many years, so to me loyalty is a major thing...it really hurts when people dont stand by you. I hope your husband starts to feel anger at these men who think they are free to humiliate us etc....sadly because of the mind control we've all experienced, often natural instinctive reactions dont come to the fore so easily...big hugs to you ...
It is a fact that if you stop tolerating rubbish you will earn more respect from others so making your stand can only be a good thing ....
Loz x