I don't think anyone is interested in 'besting' the 'organization'
I think most just want to heal and help others avoid the pain.
Am I wrong?
an average of five kingdom halls being constructed daily, almost 8 million brothers and sisters, dissemination of bible literature in 595 languages, 111,795 congregations worldwide, distribution of 179 million bibles available in 116 languages, 239 countries where jehovah's witnesses have a presence, etc.. need i go on?.
on the other hand........... crisis of conscience, freeminds, the awaa, jw.net, ummmmmm........hmmm........idk six screens or something?
not exactly working out for you guys.
I don't think anyone is interested in 'besting' the 'organization'
I think most just want to heal and help others avoid the pain.
Am I wrong?
80+ branch davidian cult members died in waco, texas.
250,000+ #jehovahswitnesses have died refusing blood.
stop this #cult!
If ONE person has died...........and they have........that officially makes the Watchtower ......murderers.
# 3 newbie post.
first of all, the newbies have set a record here!.
have you ever seen a 4pg post where 21 new members reply!
Welcome to all those that have walked away from the lie.
There are amazing people here....I hope you learn as much as I did.
Welcome to....... LIFE!
"i'm perfect, you're doomed" by kyria abrahams, 2009, touchstone.. if you want a way to get people out of that horrible cult, easily, quickly and expeditiously, then here is how to do that.. i can say with a vote of confidence that anyone who reads this book will never and i mean never become a dub.
dubs who read it (assuming they have at least one or two brain cells left) will run from their religion like flies on shit when you pour bleach on it and blow it up with dynamite.. toss away crisis of conscience, apocalypse delayed, 30 years a watchtower slave and all those other very nice books and read this one.
i read those and all the other ones.
I loved this book. I thought Kyria was very honest about her issues, as well as how 'the organization' affected her. Great book, worth a read.
has anyone else read this or seen it?.
www.leavingjehovahswitnesses.org .
i am curious what anyone thinks of this ......
Thank you Fernando!
has anyone else read this or seen it?.
www.leavingjehovahswitnesses.org .
i am curious what anyone thinks of this ......
Has anyone else read this or seen it?
www.leavingjehovahswitnesses.org
I am curious what anyone thinks of this .....
- 23 day to go .. annual meeting unofficial rumors.
- new bible.
- new nwt (revision).
I'm going to guess it will work the edges of two doctrines:
Blood -- Its all but dead.... but they need to make a stronger statement; such as it is a 'conscience matter'
1914 -- It's useless and a gross embarrassment... they are going to start working the edges of this and making it seem very unimportant
Honorable Mention -- They might do 'something'....not sure what.... about recent pedophilia losses in court or maybe some 'backing off' of field service
just got back from meeting.
the study today was as expected.
a combination of simple acceptance, formulaic research and mistakes.. there are clearly many who cannot read a reference (to the wt 95) regarding the sheep and the goats and consider the repetition of the the understanding of the timing of the judging as new light.
Unbelievable.
The sky is now orange.
"We believe"
i know there are exceptions to this (by good-hearted jws), but has anyone else noticed how some jws (even those who are pios, elders, etc.
) neglect the needs of their elderly parents?
(what i have seen is some jws hiding behind the fact that they are very busy in spiritual matters, too busy, to help their elderly parents with chores around their house, yet they find plenty of time for their own selfish pursuits.
I had to counsel a fellow elder when he grossly neglected his elderly mother. I got a call from a neighboring congregation elder that said his mother was basically ignored.
When I counseled him, he blew me off and said she was a 'pain in the arse'..... he serves to this day. Lives alone.....he is insanely wealthy and lives in a mansion.
a few of my pet peeves were:.
the po/cobe knowing that he needed to have an elders meeting after the meeting but not telling any other elders.
humm, but his wife knew.
I absolutely HATED field service in any form. It was so incredibly stupid and impractical...dated.
But the thing I hated most was the way people were treated. Like one of the other people above, I served on hundreds of committee meetings. To see the way people were spoken to or the innuendos stated by fellow elders....made me sick. I stopped more than one meeting and excused the 'publisher' so I could rip the elder a new @sshole.
The lack of education among elders is staggering. The MAJORITY have never read the Bible or could even have an intelligent discussion about Jesus personality. I was the youngest elder in every congregation I was in....and I couldn't believe the ineptitude with the scriptures.... not to mention their man-made WT policies. Massively stupid and made no effort to improve. Why should they? They were 'appointed by holy spirit'.... and averaged 10 hours a month in field service. This made them 'godly'
The negative, insulting talk about publishers behind closed doors. That sister is a 'whack job'..... those people are 'poor'..... 'maybe they shouldn't eat so much'.....
And last but not least: GROSS HYPOCRISY. Almost every BOE I served on had massive....and I mean MASSIVE drinking problems. Flat out drunks......especially their wives. Notorious drunks. Most of these guys were overweight and bombed on weekends.....until Sunday when they would give a talk on gluttony. I would literally look up at them on stage and just shake my head.