Wait...I just thought of something else...
maybe I still want my mom to be proud of me....the same way I'm proud of my daugher, and my her family.
lisa
after more than 20yrs without a relationship....after more than 5yrs without hearing a word from her, i called.. out of the blue, i just called.. me: hi, mom, it's me lisa.
mom: oh, hi.. me: well, it's been a long time, i just wanted to check and see how you and dad were.. mom: we're fine.. the conversation ranged from, the weather, my husband, my children and grandchildren, (whom she's never met) my animals, gardening.
we talked about how dad was doing now, (after a stroke) how he walks with a cane, and uses an electric wheel chair when they go to walmart.
Wait...I just thought of something else...
maybe I still want my mom to be proud of me....the same way I'm proud of my daugher, and my her family.
lisa
after more than 20yrs without a relationship....after more than 5yrs without hearing a word from her, i called.. out of the blue, i just called.. me: hi, mom, it's me lisa.
mom: oh, hi.. me: well, it's been a long time, i just wanted to check and see how you and dad were.. mom: we're fine.. the conversation ranged from, the weather, my husband, my children and grandchildren, (whom she's never met) my animals, gardening.
we talked about how dad was doing now, (after a stroke) how he walks with a cane, and uses an electric wheel chair when they go to walmart.
I realize now, that what I really want is...to be able to have a normal "family" relationship with my mother, like I have with my daughter.
My daughter just left here. she dropped by after dropping one of the grandkids off at school..
..We talked about her new stove, we talked about the grandchildren, whom I haven't seen since YESERDAY, and about the oldest grandaugher being asked by a neighbor to come over and practice the Saxaphone on HER porch because..... she's said she missed hearing her kids practice when they lived at home. (Isn't that sweet?)
....thanks you all for being there.
lisa
after more than 20yrs without a relationship....after more than 5yrs without hearing a word from her, i called.. out of the blue, i just called.. me: hi, mom, it's me lisa.
mom: oh, hi.. me: well, it's been a long time, i just wanted to check and see how you and dad were.. mom: we're fine.. the conversation ranged from, the weather, my husband, my children and grandchildren, (whom she's never met) my animals, gardening.
we talked about how dad was doing now, (after a stroke) how he walks with a cane, and uses an electric wheel chair when they go to walmart.
I didn't call them...for years. Of course they'd never call me. I told my husband if something happened to me, I didn't want him calling them.
They moved...to another state without telling me. I found out when I looked them up on-line.
I can't go more than a day or so without talking to my grown children, and grandchildren....but the borg does weird things to people's minds.
If I don't call....they never will.
I was more worried about being preached at...but that didn't happen. I was glad....which is why I thought I'd call again next month. What if their normal now. ...ok ...that might be a bit much to ask for.
lisa
after more than 20yrs without a relationship....after more than 5yrs without hearing a word from her, i called.. out of the blue, i just called.. me: hi, mom, it's me lisa.
mom: oh, hi.. me: well, it's been a long time, i just wanted to check and see how you and dad were.. mom: we're fine.. the conversation ranged from, the weather, my husband, my children and grandchildren, (whom she's never met) my animals, gardening.
we talked about how dad was doing now, (after a stroke) how he walks with a cane, and uses an electric wheel chair when they go to walmart.
Next week might be a little too soon. Weird I know...I talk to my own children everyday. But it's like I really don't know my parents.
I had to work myself up to that phone call. I thought I'd have an anxiety attack. But it turned out ok.
Maybe I'll send her some pictures of my grandchildren and some family snapshots of all of us together.
It easier to talk to complete strangers....I wish it wasn't like that, but it is.
I'm working on it though
lisa
after more than 20yrs without a relationship....after more than 5yrs without hearing a word from her, i called.. out of the blue, i just called.. me: hi, mom, it's me lisa.
mom: oh, hi.. me: well, it's been a long time, i just wanted to check and see how you and dad were.. mom: we're fine.. the conversation ranged from, the weather, my husband, my children and grandchildren, (whom she's never met) my animals, gardening.
we talked about how dad was doing now, (after a stroke) how he walks with a cane, and uses an electric wheel chair when they go to walmart.
After more than 20yrs without a relationship....after more than 5yrs without hearing a word from her, I called.
Out of the blue, I just called.
me: Hi, mom, it's me lisa
mom: Oh, hi.
me: well, it's been a long time, I just wanted to check and see how you and dad were.
mom: we're fine.
the conversation ranged from, the weather, my husband, my children and grandchildren, (whom she's never met) my animals, gardening. We talked about how dad was doing now, (after a stroke) how he walks with a cane, and uses an electric wheel chair when they go to Walmart. We talked about the economy, and my husband applying for Social Security as he will turn 65 this year. We talked about my daughter finishing up her accounting degree in the spring. We talked about my son, and how I worry about how much he drinks.
We talked about my siblings, and my nieces and nephews.
After about 20minutes, she said, that she needed to freshen up her coffee,...and I said, I needed to get ready for work.
We said goodbye. No I love you's, or I miss you. But all in all it was a pleasant conversation.
Not one mention about of religion, or JW's anything.
I think I'll call her again next month.
~just sharing~
lisa
it makes s me sick that the witnesses have such a hold over people.
ive told my wife and shown her all the crap about the society but she still insists ongoing to meetings.
shes off again this afternoon and taking the kids.
I'm wonder if offering her a better deal than boring meetings would work.
as in, "Look honey, I got us movie/theater tickets for tonight." Or look, "I made dinner and set the table for a candle lit dinner at (meeting start time)"
or "let's let tonight be family game night."
just a thought. the brain washed, thought controlled people make me sick too.
Good luck.
lisa
my jw daughter wanted me to come to the meeting tonight as the d.o.
is there this week and giving the talk and i sort of said i would but i just can't make myself get dressed in my jw duds and go.
i haven't seen my granddaughters for a month since they live 20 minutes from kh one way and i live about 20 minutes from it in the other direction.i think i kept going as long as i did just to see them.not that my daughter won't let me see them but with school and all the jw stuff they are busy every evening seems like.and i don't like to make waves since daughter is dealing with her husband being df'd and has so much stress without me adding to it.i try to be understanding and hope she will wake up one day and be free of the jw's.her husband was a jw and got her into it and now he is df'd and enjoying it alot but she is carrying on with it.reading your life story posts helps me so much.i wish i could get her to read some of them.. .
Beautiful grandchildren lisa !
Thank you....I think their pretty special.
lisa <----super proud grandmother!
my jw daughter wanted me to come to the meeting tonight as the d.o.
is there this week and giving the talk and i sort of said i would but i just can't make myself get dressed in my jw duds and go.
i haven't seen my granddaughters for a month since they live 20 minutes from kh one way and i live about 20 minutes from it in the other direction.i think i kept going as long as i did just to see them.not that my daughter won't let me see them but with school and all the jw stuff they are busy every evening seems like.and i don't like to make waves since daughter is dealing with her husband being df'd and has so much stress without me adding to it.i try to be understanding and hope she will wake up one day and be free of the jw's.her husband was a jw and got her into it and now he is df'd and enjoying it alot but she is carrying on with it.reading your life story posts helps me so much.i wish i could get her to read some of them.. .
My grandchildren live five minutes from me...but with work, school, and homework and life, I don't get to see them everyday, ...so my daughter and I have made arangements for me to pick up one, two or all three of them or Fridays and keep them for the weekend. Then she picks them up at my house on Sunday, late afternoon/early evening.
hehehe....today is Friday. woohoo.
picture of all three;
and another...
Maybe your daughter will make a deal with ya.
another cute picture...
sorry for taking over your thread..I got on a roll....
lisa
anyone here been twice dunked?
thrice dunked?.
it's unlikely any of you sane people here were baptised more than once but i knew a few who were.
I got dunked twice. The first time my foot flew up and they said I had to be dunked again.
Also my mom got dunked twice. This first time at age 14-15 or so...then again in her late 20's early 30's. I didn't think much about it at the time because I was only about 9. But now as an adult, I think back about it, I'm sure she got dunked the second time because she fornacated or something with my dad before they got married.
lisa
the po comes to see me and talks round the houses trying to find out what my problem is.. so i tell him "look its something i have to sort out for myself and i dont want to destroy your faith and make you start questioning so id rather not tell you".
he already knew cos the first elder went to his house the second he left mine and told him about [what i thought was a private conversation between mates,] my issues.. so he proceeds to tell me a story of a brother he knows who was always very studious and knowledgable about all prophecies and the details of our beliefs.. well the guy suddenly stopped attending meetings last year, dont know why but the po seemed pretty upset about it as he was an old friend.. so he says " i said to him, but john, where will you go now on sunday afternoons,!
and really wary where else will you go?".
It was such a beautiful day, that we took our Grandchildren for a walk at a nature reserve. Checked out these huge ass trees that had been blown over by the recent storms. Right next to the blown over trees was new growth. So cool....I should have taken pictures. Next time I will.
It was much better than sitting in any Kingdom Hall, that's for sure.
lisa