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  Beaconing and Sheltering away from WT (Action Plan 1)

  by ruruj in

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  from "reform or dissolve watchtower and questions?

  " post i learnt that most in jwn overwhelmingly disfavor reformation.. okay, let's talk something we could agree on.. .

  we are against the system.

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  ruruj,

  Some JW are happy where they are, many are not. Some would want to keep their faith in God and Christ, others might not. As far as morality is concern, some will keep those standards, others might just be glad to break free from the restraints. But in all, JWs come in all sizes and shapes. But there is one thing, one thing only that they all need to know. That the WT is not, never was, will never be, the so called God’s organization here on earth.

  The having that knowledge could be liberating to some, but to others it might be a blow to their sense of self worth, security and world view. It’s a very delicate situation, one that needs to be approached with a great sense of sensibility and responsibility.

  Also, many of those that left and some of us that are in the path of leaving the org, (really) don’t want to deal with WT stuff anymore. It’s a waste of energy, resources and time. We wasted too much of that already working forthe org, wasting more of it fighting against the org is equally counter-productive.

  I felt like fighting the WT at first (and still feel like it sometimes), but I now have no desire not fight the monster. Life’s too short to spend it that way. However, I will support any organized outreach campaign to exJW or disillusioned JWs, just to help them at a personal level…

  I don’t know at what point of your path to discovery you are on, but the more you focus your strength in the improvement of yourself (spiritually, physically, emotionally, academically, etc) the less and less relevant fighting the watchtower society becomes to you.

  A healthy way to help is to make your own blog/page, write spiritually and psycologocally uplifting material, make your own youtube channel and post videos explaining that the WT is not Jah’s organization. The more the people making this type of material, the easier it becomes for others to learn the real truth about the organization. I have my own www.libertadcristiana.net, it’s the best I can do for now.

  my 2 centabos,

  onemore.
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  Reform or dissolve Watchtower and questions?

  by ruruj in

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  first of all, is there a way to keep this topic available?.

  some would like to see authoritarian repressive watchtower gone, others want reform among jws now!

  ... "don't curse the darkness light a candle" - a chinese proverb?.

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  Ruruj, and all others reformist…

  I’d like to share my thoughts on this issue. I once felt that an aggressive campaign was necessary in order to “unmask” the watchtower society. I support the idea of a reformation movement, and in doing more than just posting on forums like this.

  But I’ve been fortunate enough to come across many mature Christians who have raise awareness of the danger of doing an aggressive campaign against the WT society. There is one advice in particular that stroke a cord in me, and made me think for a long time, (I hope this poster who emailed me this advice don’t mind me sharing it with you all) here is what he said:

  “The problem is that the monsters at the top will do anything to preserve their power. And Jesus stated that the wheat would be oversown with weeds. He also noted that the angles were responsible for cleaning up the mess and warned his disciples to refrain from taking any action (i.e., other than what they individually could do by keeping themselves clean). The danger is that they (and we) could cause more harm than good, pulling out some wheat while attempting to remove the weeds. This is something to really think about. It's a very powerful illustration.”

  With this in mind, I believe that instead of “uniting” to bring down the WT, we should unite to form an association such a BRC (or open chapters in our area) to provide assistance to those who are suffering as result of the WT policy. Often many that leave the organization don’t have the spiritual or psychological strength to make it outside of the WT. There are only a handful of us that have the mental and spiritual capacity to successfully leave the WT and lead a productive, happy and fulfilling life (and we some of us still have to pay a price, such as a divided family, broken marriages, lost of friendships, “catching up” with life, etc.). Others are left in a state not better than the one they were while in the organization.

  What I’m finding productive in my life is to detox from everything WT, reading another bible translation, reading bible commentaries, other Christians books, and reverse-shunning JW friends, and of course reading and posting here.

  So the reform has to be that of the “individual”, the “self”; then we can go and extend our help to those abused by the WT.

  Mi opinion,

  Onemore
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  An observation on being free of WT busywork...

  by undercover in

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  i was looking at my calender for the remainder of the year and realized just how busy we are.

  visiting friends out of town.

  friends visiting us from out of town.

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  onemore

  Since the day I stop serving as an elder, I’ve been feeling more and more relax. I even enjoy my secular work, and I’m planning on going back to school for my master.

  My wife is enjoying our time together, just last night she told me that I’m been more fun to be around, that something has changed in me. I said…well honey, stepping aside my eldership freed me from the pressures, the tensions, the aggravations and the responsibilities that were draining my energy. And…missing those few meetings have allowed us to do more interesting things with our time.

  So, yes UC…being free of the WT busywork is very rewarding. Life is Good!

  Onemore
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  Jehovah's Witness abused young boy...another one

  by onemore in

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  another abuse that comes to the news!.

  jehovah's witness abused young boy(ukpa) jul 20, 2010. a jehovah's witness has admitted sexually abusing a boy from the age of seven.. thomas gold, 45, abused the child over a period of seven years at an address in clackmannanshire, the high court in glasgow heard.. the abuse began with a kiss on the boy's mouth and became more sexual as the youngster got older.

  on one occasion there was "unnatural carnal connection" between them.. google_ad_section_end(name=article) copyright 2010 the press association.

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  onemore

  Another abuse that comes to the news!

  Jehovah's Witness abused young boy

  (UKPA) – Jul 20, 2010

  A Jehovah's Witness has admitted sexually abusing a boy from the age of seven.

  Thomas Gold, 45, abused the child over a period of seven years at an address in Clackmannanshire, the High Court in Glasgow heard.

  The abuse began with a kiss on the boy's mouth and became more sexual as the youngster got older. On one occasion there was "unnatural carnal connection" between them.

  Copyright © 2010 The Press Association. All rights reserved.

  http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5hyoSES1_Z-3RP7UXFYdcuBD0KHFQ
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  3 Things You Should Know About Islam

  by onemore in

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  ....watch the video, what if we were to substitute the word islam (in the video) for watchtowerism.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcbptzalqfy.

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  onemore

  ....watch the video, what if we were to substitute the word Islam (in the video) for Watchtowerism.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCbPtzALqFY
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  More Society cutbacks - Society says "screw you" to the publishers yet again

  by sir82 in

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  at our service meeting it was announced that there is a change in the manner in which magazines are now to be delivered to the congregations.. up until now, magazines were sent to each kingdom hall via ups.

  in years past magazines were sent to each congregation po's home address via ups.. going forward, magazines will be sent only as far as the assembly hall.

  it is the responsibility of each kingdom hall to send brother(s) twice a month to drive out there, pick up the magazines, and return.. this of course saves a little bit of money for the society - shipping larger packages to fewer addresses will cost less.. however, what about the expense to the local congregations?.

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  So, if the brothers have an accident while driving to or from picking up the magazine…who will be responsible? Who could the injured person sue? The Watchtower society, the local congregation, the brothers?

  For example:

  “$17 million award from a jury in Milwaukee against Catholic Archdiocese because a volunteer for a Catholic lay organization, (Legion of Mary) driving her own car, ran a red light and caused an accident while delivering a statue of the Virgin Mary to a 82-year-old semi-retired barber. Although the church does not direct the activities of this group, its meetings are held on church property ”

  http://www.morehead-law.com/articles/CampusPreservationPlanning.pdf

  I can see the borg setting themselves up for more legal liability…they don’t want to let it go! I guess the benefit out-weights the liabilities.

  All these little things cause big stirs among doubting JW, the brothers are showing more signs of discouragement, so when announcements like these are made…they serve to raise question and to start talking about “what is going on with the org, a lot of changes lately”…
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  I Would Like to Buy or Barrow....

  by onemore in

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  the book titled sign of the last days.

  by carl o. jonsson.

  it looks like the book is out of print.

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  onemore

  The book titled SIGN OF THE LAST DAYS. WHEN? BY Carl O. Jonsson. It looks like the book is out of print.

  P.M me if you what to work something out.

  Thanks

  Onemore
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 07-18-10 WT Study (REACH OUT)

  by blondie in

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  comments.

  comments.

  you sow with a view to the spirit.

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  DB: That awkward feeling that all eyes are upon you and the comments about how much your parts are missed will go away soon enough... I say AMEN to that! It has been a couple of months, I know and I hope they'll forget about me.

  I'll bet you feel as if a giant weight as been lifted!! - Words can’t express how I feel…two words: TOTAL BLISS! I’m a free man.

  As for the elder's school 411. I still have the letter with the references to the articles and books that the WT is requesting to study in preparation for the school. I haven’t even bothered to look them up to have a feel of what they’ll be discussing. I’ll share that info with the board shortly. The school I was “invited” is going to be held in the belly of the monster and some of the instructors are well known District Overseers in the USA-Spanish field.

  P.S….I’m aware that I might be giving a little too much information about myself, but I’m like a Kamikaze right now…
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 07-18-10 WT Study (REACH OUT)

  by blondie in

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  comments.

  comments.

  you sow with a view to the spirit.

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  Thanks for your efforts Blondie, I always look forward to your comments.

  I wanted to miss this study. But other affairs “forced” me to go.

  I was very uncomfortable throughout the whole study, specifically because I resigned not too long ago and many eyes were on me. The “R&F” grew fond of me, and some have expressed that they miss my parts, public talks, etc. Many were surprised when the announcement was made that bro: “onemore” is not an elder.

  I was scheduled to attend the elder school later this year, I only regret not being able to attend to confirm by myself, the rumors that this school is about protecting the interests of the WT by transferring all the legal liabilities to the elders. And of course, I wanted to get the new instruction manual (the new “elders” book). I wanted to confirm this so that I could to let my fellow Spanish speaking elders know the risk that they are running by serving as elders in the WT…legal liability to could also mean deportation to those elders that are legal residents in the USA.
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  Oct 15th WT

  by dozy in

  1. watchtower
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  now up on jw.org.. it would seem that the days of "local needs" berating the flock may be coming to an end - one article instructs that elders should ensure that meetings are "encouraging" and that where counsel is needed for just a few people then it should be given privately rather than from the platform..

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  It’s all part of the mind control, to create mental and emotional confusion as to what the REAL message from the GB is. Are they ravenous wolves or are they caring pastors being misjudge by the evil goats? A sensible JW that’s starting to wake-up and smell the GB “idolatry” all over the WT’s message and is thinking of leaving, now get his hopes up thinking that reform is finally coming and that Jehovah is leading the way…so he/she stays…but all will remain the same, nothing will change, it’ll only gets worse.

  If the message and spirit of the WT is do dependant on the influence of a man rather than the scriptures; then what long lasting spiritual and emotional stability can they really offer? None…

  All I know is that I’M GONE AND DONE.