Posts by outlander

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Why Is My Sister Accusing Me Of Apostasy? (new guy here)

by HelpMeBelieve in

hello, maybe i am gambling by posting a thread here at your website.

i don't know what an apostate really is and why someone is removed from the watchtower for this sin.. .

i have a sister in visalia california who is telling all my brothers and sisters "he is an apostate, our schizophrenic brother said so!".

outlander

I don't post here very often nowadays but your situation with your sister reminds me of my own problem

with my sister. The J.W's will tear apart any family that has some members who are indocrinated in the cult

and others who are not interested, or who are former members. That is what they do. I am the only member

of my family, and all relations, who are not, or has ever been, in the J.W's. Although i did study a couple of times.

Once when I was 16 another time at 58 yrs old. Every contact with J.W. family has led to problems with them. Especially

my sister. To make a long story short. They are LOST! You cannot interact with them, or reason with them. The

problem is compounded if they have mental problems on top of being J.W's. Like my own sister has. I solved the

situation with this simple reasoning. If a person, relative or not, causes you pain, avoid that person and do not let

them become involved in your life. Harsh solution, YES, but sometimes a situation can become so bad that thats the

only way to handle it. Get new friends, become involved with groups that offer positive influences in your life, and most

importantly, find out the real facts behind the J.W's and omit this group from your life. ASAP!

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So what is the conservative talking point on shooting down the jobs bill?

by JonathanH in

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http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/19/politics/senate-bring-jobs-home-bill-blocked/index.html?hpt=hp_c1.

so the bill proposed that we give tax breaks to corporations that keep or create jobs in the us instead of shipping them overseas, and removing certain tax deductions for companies shipping jobs over seas.

seems very pro american, common sense, obvious.

outlander

I just had to post on this one. After a while it gets just plain sickening. The Republicans have lost their minds, plain and simple. It seems that they would destroy the country just to rule over the rubble that would remain. Then they would say that it was all Obama's fault and a good portion of the brain washed public would believe it like the mindless drones that they are. I see little future for this country unless something drastic occures that wakes people up. Sad but true.

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I just wanted to post a fun true story.

by outlander in

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an estimated 20,000 new age believers who say the "upside down" mountain is home to aliens who will rescue them from an impending apocalypse have saturated a small french commune near the foot of the picturesque pic de bugarach.. the independent reports the growing flock, who locals refer to as "esoterics," believe the world will come to an end on december 21st, 2012. they also reportedly believe that the unique mountain is in fact home to a race of alien beings that will emerge to rescue the gathered humans and transport them to a new civilization.. .

quick, someone email the governing body to send some literature to these people!.

outlander

An estimated 20,000 New Age believers who say the "upside down" mountain is home to aliens who will rescue them from an impending apocalypse have saturated a small French commune near the foot of the picturesque Pic de Bugarach.

The Independent reports the growing flock, who locals refer to as "esoterics," believe the world will come to an end on December 21 st , 2012. They also reportedly believe that the unique mountain is in fact home to a race of alien beings that will emerge to rescue the gathered humans and transport them to a new civilization.

QUICK, SOMEONE EMAIL THE GOVERNING BODY TO SEND SOME LITERATURE TO THESE PEOPLE!

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An interesting comparison between my reception at a K.H. and a Baptist Ch.

by outlander in

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been a while, long while indeed, since i last posted here but i just had to share an interesting.

observation my wife and i made last sunday.

before i do that though, for anyone that remembers any of my previous posts and the stress i was under a year ago, a lot has changed!

outlander

Hello everybody! Been a while, long while indeed, since i last posted here but I just had to share an interesting

observation my wife and I made last Sunday. Before I do that though, for anyone that remembers any of my previous posts and the stress i was under a year ago, a lot has changed! Been married for a year come Feb. 17th, and it is going fine, my wife and I both have a part time job together thats close by our house, and enough coming in to pay the bills with a little help from S.S. Mother, who we had been taking care of for years, reached a stage in her Alzheimers where it became impossible to care for her at home and my J.W. sister had her put in a private nursing home. By that time she was totally unresponsive and sadly passed on in her sleep about 6 months ago. She had been a Witness for around 45 years. There was no memorial service and i have mixed feelings about that. Anyway, there are no more J. W. 's other than my Sister in my life now and things are going great. Sorry for the rambling, on to the point. My wifes cousin and his wife, both in their 70's recently returned from missionary work in Australia. He is a lifelong Baptist, nice guy, but a little pushy in wanting my wife and I to go to his church. We both enjoy quiet Sunday mornings, coffee and the internet rather than jumping in the car to head somewhere to listen to Hellfire Sermons. But last Saturday I finally gave in and promised him that we would meet him at his church the next day. First time I have been in a regular church since around the age of 10, all my experience has been with Kingdom Halls. When we arrived the people were friendly, dressed in jeans, or casual clothing. There was coffee and food. The Church itself had a warm, atmosphere to it. The seats were cushioned, and comfortable. The soundsystem was fantastic and the main speaker stood in front of a movie screen showing nature scenes while he talked. The talk itself was a personal story by the Preacher about the pain he felt upon the recent death of his own Mother and how we should all care for each other and make the most of the time we have. With the death of my own mother so recent it resonated with me personally. I shook his hand and told him I enjoyed his talk as he left the stage area.

Now since I hadn't seen my J.W. sister in about 3 months, and the Kingdom Hall was only about 4 miles down the road, I suggested to my wife that we leave a little early and go there to catch her before she left. So we headed off to the kingdom Hall! Now a little info here. The last time I had seen any of the Witnesses was over a year ago, and in that time I haven't cut my hair, so at 61 yrs old iv'e come to look a bit like Sam Elliot in the old movie Roadhouse. Long grey hair, slight mustache, with a wool Bogin hat, and western style leather jacket. Hey, i live in the mountains, gotta look the part. Keeps the tourists happy! Anyway, we arrive at the Hall just as it's getting out and head on in. Only one person came forward to greet us, and he seemed more intent on blocking our way than anything else. Then i noticed it. The stares, the small groups of people gathering together looking our way and whispering together. The atmosphere of coldness, of who are you, what do you want, ect. What surprised me most was the look of actual FEAR on a couple of the womens faces. WE DID NOT BELONG! So i put on my best smile and strode forward, hand extended, and asked if my sister was there. She wasn't. Thats good. I hope she stays away more. I did see one person i actually like there, a guy and his wife who had a Bible Study with me a long time ago. We talked a bit and I politely refused a invatation to hear the Circuit Oversear talk next Sunday. I wasn't rude or anything but I did fight the urge to say that I would rather have my testicles eaten by a goat than listen to some old guy ramble on about how great the peaching work is. As we left, i asked my wife what she thought of the place since she had never been inside a K.H. before. She said it was like being inside a storage shed, lifeless, and stark. One more thing, you know how Witnesses always ask you how your life is going. Hoping that you will come up with a long list of woes in order to confirm their belief that all worldly people are miserable. I was asked this twice, and both times answered truthfully that everything is fine and i have never been happier in my life. Funny thing is, it's true. I actually can't find anything to complain about nowadays. Things are going just fine for once and I honestly hope that everyone reading this rather rambling narrative can say the same. I always read this forum. Why? Because one day I expect this Cult to start asking some very strange things of it's members and i want to know if/when that hapens! Time for more coffee and a walk.

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A little J.W. sabotage at the health Clinic.

by outlander in

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took the wife in today for her regular every 3 month checkup.

what do i see but 3 awake magazines layed neatly.

in a group amongst the usual pile of better homes and gardens, ect, put out for those waiting for their appointments.

outlander

Took the wife in today for her regular every 3 month checkup. What do I see but 3 AWAKE magazines layed neatly

in a group amongst the usual pile of Better Homes and Gardens, ect, put out for those waiting for their appointments

to read. I fished out an pen and wrote: WARNING, THE J.W's are a dangerous cult that breaks up families and

shuns former members. BE AWARE! SEARCH THE INTERNET FOR THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT THIS GROUP BEFORE

BECOMING INVOLVED!

I felt quite good afterwards. LOL.

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Almost went to the Kindom Hall this morning- - - almost.

by outlander in

was getting up i changed my mind.

see, thing is, my youngest sister and her husband who i have not seen in 15. years are going to be there.

they drove up a five hour drive to visit my other sister, also a j.w.

outlander

Nephew will most likely stop over on Tuesday, with a new girlfriend who is also a J.W. I may give him my copy of Christian Freedomand see it it helps.

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Almost went to the Kindom Hall this morning- - - almost.

by outlander in

was getting up i changed my mind.

see, thing is, my youngest sister and her husband who i have not seen in 15. years are going to be there.

they drove up a five hour drive to visit my other sister, also a j.w.

outlander

Got up, made a decision, woke the wife, let her know what I was thinking, and then 5 minutes or so latter as she

was getting up I changed my mind. See, thing is, my youngest sister and her husband who I have not seen in 15

years are going to be there. They drove up a five hour drive to visit my other sister, also a J.W. now after a 30

year lapse. No one bothered to inform me or the wife. I found out a couple of days ago when I called my 22 yr. old Nephew

and he let it slip. Reason my other sister didn't let me know of the visit is because I sent her an Email 2 months ago

outlining all the false beliefs of the Witnesses so now she refuses to talk to me and considers me an "OPPOSER"!

Thing is, I shared had an apartment in this sisters Duplex here for 6 years, where we helped each other take

care of our Mother with Alzheimers, until she had to be put in a N.H. I then married and moved out. Long story,

and not worth going into here. But for all thoses years not once did my other sis and her husband, who's an Elder,

want to visit either me, or her, they also refused to help care for Mom. But now that everyone, but me, has embraced

the Borg they can find time to visit. My Nephew is in too. He did leave for a few years but went back after

losing his job and no help from his folks due to shunning. That means that my entire family is now J.W. and even though

I was never baptised they won't speak to me because I DARE to expose the lies for what they are. So the evil

little imp in me almost made me go to the Kingdom Hall today, just to see the looks on both my sisters faces and

the look on the youngers pompous @ss of a husband. But I just couldn't bring myself to suffer through the

service. Also, if they want to see me, they know where i live and it's only about 10 minutes from the Hall. By the

way, they are all born in's in my younger sister's family. That's it, been a long time since I posted but i wanted to

get this off my chest and get reactions. Best to ALL on this site!!

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Can i get a little free legal advice and/or opinions on a small problem?

by outlander in

i picked this forum section since it seems closest to what i'm gonna ask.

been a few months since i last posted but i always keep up with whats going on here since most of my family is j.w.

anyway, to get to the point.

outlander

For Betterdaze: No, I am not whining or trying to see whats in it for me! You know nothing of the situation besides a few paragraphs that i posted. From your comments it seems your looking at my question with a predetermined negative viewpoint based on something that happened to you in the past. The reason I said that I would have to check out the Will is BECAUSE SHE CANNOT READ AND THEREFORE HAS NO WAY TO UNDERSTAND WHATS IN LEGAL PAPERS UNLESS SOMEONE IS THERE TO HELP HER! So please keep keep the negative comments and snide remarks to yourself- JERK!

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Can i get a little free legal advice and/or opinions on a small problem?

by outlander in

i picked this forum section since it seems closest to what i'm gonna ask.

been a few months since i last posted but i always keep up with whats going on here since most of my family is j.w.

anyway, to get to the point.

outlander

Okay, a few more facts. Although it looks like I am going to have to go to the Courthouse and see a copy of the will. They were married when he died. As for the exact wording of the Will. I don't know, but will find out ASAP. Thanks all! Oh, diana. I have your $40.00 right here in my wallet where it will continue to acru interest. Really. Trust me......

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Can i get a little free legal advice and/or opinions on a small problem?

by outlander in

i picked this forum section since it seems closest to what i'm gonna ask.

been a few months since i last posted but i always keep up with whats going on here since most of my family is j.w.

anyway, to get to the point.

outlander

Hello all. I picked this forum section since it seems closest to what I'm gonna ask. Been a few months since I last posted but I always keep up with whats going on here since most of my family is J.W. Anyway, to get to the point. I posted this question on two so called free legal advice pages and both tried to get me to pay $40.00 or so before answering. Figures! So I am turning to the brilliant people here for an answer. Factual or farcical, I will read any and all replies.

Here is the exact question I posted. "I just got married last week. My wife was married for 30 years to a man who passed away 4 years ago. In his Will he left the land and house to his son, age 35, who is married and lives elsewhere in the same town, but also stipulated that his mother has the right to live in the house until she dies. Can he prevent the two of us from moving into the old house together if we might need to do so in the future? His wife is greedy, and a Real estate Agent and she would love to get her hands on the place and sell it. House not worth much, but land is.

So thats my problem. I've talked to him on the phone about it and he said, Quote, "It would be hard for him to swallow." So I don't really know which way he's leaning. Make his mother angry, or make his wife angry. I will check back here in a bit for what will surely be interesting reading!