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TRINITY Challenge for JW's, Unitarians and Anyone Else

by UnDisfellowshipped in

trinity challenge using only the new world translation of the holy scriptures -- let us debate and reason on the scriptures about whether god almighty is a trinity, or is only one person.. on another thread, bane said that we know for a fact immediately that nearly all religions other than jehovah's witnesses are false because almost all of them believe in the trinity.

and bane claims he can "out-scripturize" anyone with the help of jehovah.

* the son was praying to the father.

brotherdan

I've defended the Trinity until I was blue in the face. But I think the most sense came from an email that was sent to me by Ray Franz. He said that while he has never come across historical evidence that the 1st century Christians ever believed in the Trinity, he also recognizes that the Bible seems to teach things that could support the idea. However, he said that he prefers to remain silent where the scriptures are silent.

I agree with Undisfellowshiped that there are MANY MANY scriptures that seem to prove the Trinity. There are scriptures that call the Holy Spirit God, Jesus God, and the Father God. However, the EXPLICIT doctrine is not given. Why is this? I think that maybe it's not really important to know the very nature of God.

Do I understand eternity? No. How could I? It's beyond my frame of reference. Do I deny that God is eternal? Never. Do I understand the Trinity? Not completely. But if God wanted to exist in the form of a Trinity, could He? Yes he could.

I think the tendency to be dogmatic on both sides is very prevelent. I have been on both sides of the issue. Right now what seems to make the most sense to me is that I love Jesus. I love the Father. And I love the Holy Spirit. Do I understand their nature? No. But I love them and their roles all the same. Will God judge me for not understanding his nature (which is beyond our understanding?) I really hope not. I just want to follow the Christian life and love God for who He is. Beyond that, I pray that He will bring me into a greater knowledge of Him one day.

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What was it that first got you thinking that the Society was WRONG in how they INTERPRET the BIBLE?

by UnDisfellowshipped in

what was it that first got you thinking that the society was wrong in how they interpret the bible?.

for me personally, it was the way they always downgrade jesus to be an angel and are promoting the governing body in his place.. also when the society taught that jesus was abaddon/apollyon the fallen angel in revelation..

brotherdan

Terry,

Nice to see your gibberish talk on one of the religious topics. There is no interpretation? What a joke. You're a silly butt nugget.

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What was it that first got you thinking that the Society was WRONG in how they INTERPRET the BIBLE?

by UnDisfellowshipped in

what was it that first got you thinking that the society was wrong in how they interpret the bible?.

for me personally, it was the way they always downgrade jesus to be an angel and are promoting the governing body in his place.. also when the society taught that jesus was abaddon/apollyon the fallen angel in revelation..

brotherdan

I'm the same with many of you. First I read Crises of Conscience, and then tried to read the Revelation book. It was a joke. How can you believe that these powerful celestial changing trumpet blasts applied to a weak little resolution given at a convention in the 20's? It's sad. I think most JWs would see that it is false if they would just take 1 step back and look at it. The Bible is so obviously different from what they say.

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Fill In The Blank: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The ------------- People On Earth!

by minimus in

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brotherdan

I'm not saying JWs are awesome. I'm not sticking up for their beliefs or haughty attitudes. I'm just saying, Lets help get them out using love, compassion, and understanding.

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How to be alone

by mrsjones5 in

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one of my groups on facebook posted this video and i'm posting it here cuz i thought it was sweet and poignant:.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7x7szzsxys.

brotherdan

That was beautiful! What an amazing message.

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Fill In The Blank: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The ------------- People On Earth!

by minimus in

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brotherdan

That's not the harshest thing I've wanted to say to Outlaw after reading some of his posts. There's the golden rule for you. If I was acting like such a douche, I would hope someone else would tell me.

Ok...so I'm probably going to get a lot of "You're a douche, brotherdan" because of this post...

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Fill In The Blank: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The ------------- People On Earth!

by minimus in

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brotherdan

Ok, touche'. Outlaw, due to your posts on this thread and others that I have read in the past, you seem to me to be an immature, unloving, haughty, douche. How's that for judging. And I'm judging you personally, not a group of people. If you want me to judge, I'll judge. But only specific people (i.e. you, Outlaw)

Stand up against name calling and this is what you get? You're pathetic, Outlaw.

Judgement via - Brotherdan

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Fill In The Blank: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The ------------- People On Earth!

by minimus in

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brotherdan

That really happened to you Scully?!? That is so sick!

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Fill in the blank: Apostates Are the Most ___________ People on Earth

by undercover in

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brotherdan

Not you too undercover... :-)

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Fill In The Blank: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The ------------- People On Earth!

by minimus in

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brotherdan

That's not a stereotype minimus. A stereotype is a belief about a specific social group or TYPE of individual. You're confusing the concept of stereotype with the concept of predjudice.