Posts by Jourles

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UN FAX SCAN NOW ONLINE

by Esmeralda in

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at bill bowen's request, i have put the scan up on the web.

the un/wt official fax scan is available at:.

: http://wtowerun.homestead.com/fax.html.

Jourles

Jayhawk1 said:

I have made a copy that I plan to take to the Kingdom hall and put it on all of their cars.

That is the way to go. I might have to fake being sick and go hit a couple of KH's while the wife is at meeting and do just that on Tuesday and Thursday. Can't do it during the day(like Sunday) as someone might see me.

Is the new moon approaching? Special Forces use that to their advantage, why can't I?

This is a great suggestion. Not entirely original, but in this case would do major damage. Even more so than emailing it around. All we would need is for a few gossiping type sisters to start talking about it in the hall and it should spread like a wildfire. Maybe a local needs talk? "Do not read government, I mean apostate, literature" makes for a fitting subject.

I love this UN issue. SOOO much easier to spread around than anything else(blood, 1914, etc.) without it looking like it coming from an *apostate* source. It hits them just as hard in the jacobs too, which is the bonus.

Jourles

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Raymond Franz Never A Member of GB/Fathers Email

by ladonna in

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yep, that's right!!.

i called my mother tonight to say a friendly hello.

you guessed it.

Jourles

Ladonna,

Did you get that Time article that I sent? I do not know what to say about that letter. Only that I am SO SORRY it has happened. I am waiting for a similar letter to be delivered to me in the future, only substitute the "mother" for the "father." I will try to stay in for as long as I can so that I will still be able to distribute *apostate* information to all of my relatives. My wife cries whenever I present her with even a news article. Someday I hope she will break her training and read this information without mind-control running in the background.

Be glad that you have already have taken that walk across the bridge. There are still many of us who would like to join you at the other end, but are still standing in line to cross.

You're in my prayers,
Jourles

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I hate Apostates ....

by RR in

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here's a nice one from great crowd.

javlin .

junior member .

Jourles

This topic brought up a weird and ugly memory. Back when I was still young and went in service(!), I remember that my friends and I always liked to guess how the householder responded(positive or negative) when walking back to the car. A good friend of mine and I had a system of letting each other know how it went if one of us was left in the car waiting for the other. My way of showing a negative response from the householder was taking my right hand and sliding my index and middle finger across my neck, just below my chin and jaw. Think of slitting your throat. My friend always guessed correctly in front of the group every time. I made it look like I was slowly scratching my throat.

I think back about it now and cannot believe I did that. Back then, it was cool because "it was really going to happen anyday now," and Jehovah promised he was going to do it. I was sick, but I got better.

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MAJOR UN/WTS/NGO NEWS - WTS IS GONE

by hawkaw in

as of 11:45 this morning (i had a telphone call this morning with the refernce department person named holly at 212-963-7234), i can tell you that the watchtower has disassociated itself from the united nations dpi!!!!!!.

the dpi is now taking them off the list.

the dpi requested the list removal to be done this morning!!!!!.

Jourles

Don't worry about the phone tracing equipment. For them to do any tracing whatsoever they would need a switch tech in the local central office that serves their phone lines coming in. Even then, that would be unethical and illegal to trace where an originating phone call would be coming from. Although for "testing" purposes, if they did get your number, all they would have to do is contact a "brother" in a switch position anywhere in the USA to do a 911 record lookup. That is done by a CNAMDVER command in a Nortel DMS switch. It would give your full address and the name of who the phone service is provided to.

Jourles, who knows that Hollywood puts too much crap into those fake phone traces. There is no mythical 30 second rule to do a trace, once the call is answered, you're nailed.

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Raymond Franz Never A Member of GB/Fathers Email

by ladonna in

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yep, that's right!!.

i called my mother tonight to say a friendly hello.

you guessed it.

Jourles

Ladonna, check your email. I hope it was sent alright...

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MAJOR UN/WTS/NGO NEWS - WTS IS GONE

by hawkaw in

as of 11:45 this morning (i had a telphone call this morning with the refernce department person named holly at 212-963-7234), i can tell you that the watchtower has disassociated itself from the united nations dpi!!!!!!.

the dpi is now taking them off the list.

the dpi requested the list removal to be done this morning!!!!!.

Jourles

Office of Public Affairs
Watchtower Bible and Tract Society

For Immediate Release -

As of today, October 10, 2001, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York is hereby withdrawing its associative status with the Department of Public Information as a Non-Governmental Organization. It is with great sadness that we make this withdrawal and to lose our most precious resource of information that we constantly receive from the DPI. This will not affect the expansion of the worldwide work in any way. The associative status with the DPI was merely a "tool" to further our work. Seeing that the WTBTS is now legally represented in over 230 lands across the globe, we feel that our association with the DPI is now no longer needed.

We thank the DPI for giving us the opportunity to use them as a "weapon" in the "spiritual warfare" that we wage against many countries. We sincerely regret to inform the public that Lloyd Barry, the original applicant of the DPI application, has recently passed on as of October 1, 2001. It is the Jehovah's Witnesses understanding that many worldwide catastophic events happen in October. The passing on of such a man was one of those events. It was also with "spiritual warfare" in mind that we staged the death of Brother Barry in Hawaii during the talk, "Fighters Against God Will Not Prevail." Brother Barry was instrumental in keeping up the relationship with the DPI until "the end of this system of things." His signature on the 2001 DPI application renewal forms will be the last time a member of the WTBTS will have made an association with the DPI.

For all press inquiries, please call 1(800)328-7448 ext. 263-343

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MAJOR UN/WTS/NGO NEWS - WTS IS GONE

by hawkaw in

as of 11:45 this morning (i had a telphone call this morning with the refernce department person named holly at 212-963-7234), i can tell you that the watchtower has disassociated itself from the united nations dpi!!!!!!.

the dpi is now taking them off the list.

the dpi requested the list removal to be done this morning!!!!!.

Jourles

This sucks. If they are taken off of the list from the DPI website, then that leaves no proof that they were associated. The ONLY way for proof to remain is to have the UN itself issue a press release stating that the WTBTS was taken off for whatever reason. The WTBTS will never make a statement regarding this issue. They will merely let it go on without comment, hoping to have it disappear with time. But the UN MUST make a comment on this matter! And it MUST be spread everywhere. I'll help spread it, will you?

p.s. If we could get our hands on their original application papers, then that would be the icing on this mud pie that gets thrown back into the faces of the GB. Yep, I see it already - Lloyd Barry is going to be made into an apostate, retroactively that is...

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Raymond Franz Never A Member of GB/Fathers Email

by ladonna in

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friends

yep, that's right!!.

i called my mother tonight to say a friendly hello.

you guessed it.

Jourles

To end it, I said to her that I no longer wish to associate with any of my family (I am adopted) until they were no longer JW's.

That was great! Nothing like using the ol' reverse pysc on them. Usually, that is what YOUR relatives are supposed to say to you when you leave the org, physically or mentally. By saying that, you did not give her the chance to give you the same treatment back. I wonder if she was taken back by that statement thinking, "What?! That's not right! WE'RE not supposed to associate with HER!"

You will get through this. God knows I am in the same boat and am sinking fast with all of the ammunition that I have been sending out too.

Jourles

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UNITED NATIONS , NGO's and WTBS

by MacHislopp in

following the link given by kent,.

i have several observation to make:.

(from the link : http://www.un.org/moreinfo/ngolink/brochure.htm).

Jourles

Might I suggest that if someone does pursue the media route, that if references are given to contact former ex-JW's, to please have those folks not use harsh language towards the WTBTS during an interview? With the last article in the Guardian, while it was written quite truthfully, I could not send it to my relatives because of the harshness in its tone. If it were me doing the interview, I would merely state the facts and leave out all emotions. When you attack the org in written form, the true blue JW will immediately throw up the wall of defense regardless of what is said in the article and then turn their defense into an attack upon the presenter, in most cases, the relative who is "out." I have already seen this attack from my mother who never did address the UN issue. Rather, she quickly made mincemeat of the UN website and stated that the web page could be changed by hackers and that emails can be altered when sent(what she meant by the email is, when you "send a page" through IE, once the page is pasted into your email client, you can change the wording.) To back out of that confrontation, I switched gears and pointed out that Patterson had a driver take down some firemen from there to NYC and that was such a good deed. Uugghh.

If another article comes out, make it a good one. Tell the columnist to forward YOU a copy before printing to check for errors in doctrine and such. We need a hard hitting topic that will leave no wiggle room for the common JW. Also, try to have "quotes" from a named UN person, not just a "UN representative."

Jourles Full Disclosure: Still in officially; go to meetings off and on for the appeasement of my wife; in my mind I am out completely; trying to feed little tidbits of info such as this UN thing to all of my family without creating a tidal wave of backlash

Former pope estate??

by Jourles in

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http://www.realtor.com/findhome/homelisting.asp?frm=bymls&st=fl&ct=manalapan&mls=westpalmbeach&lid=2117977&src=rctop&lnksrc=realr5lf2c0001 .

this real estate listing shows this house to be a "former pope estate.

" if you have $40 million dollars, then the price is right for you.

Jourles

http://www.realtor.com/FindHome/HomeListing.asp?frm=bymls&st=FL&ct=MANALAPAN&mls=WestPalmBeach&lid=2117977&src=rctop&lnksrc=REALR5LF2C0001

This real estate listing shows this house to be a "former pope estate." If you have $40 million dollars, then the price is right for you. From the looks of this modest home, it DOES INDEED pay to be a religious leader...