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Stayed up all night, see it is a cult now.

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i really needed to find a place to write this as i don't believe i can talk with anyone else about my account, perhaps it is similar to a lot of yours.. last night for whatever reason i said i would go online and look up information on jws.

i have been raised as a jw all my life and baptized the last few years.

i looked at www.freeminds.org and www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com and couldn't believe how easily the whole of my lifes teachings were refuted.. i can't stop my brain from running, bs just in regards to theology alone (1914, paradise earth, celebrations etc.

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To update, I am about 160 pages into Crisis of Conscience and reading other information on the internet. My understanding of the history and methods of the cult are becoming clearer.

One question I do have is, say at work being a devote JW previously, shunning many things, how did you guys go about perhaps changing some things? Say now you want to go for an after work drink, or that slice of birthday cake doesn't seem so bad.

Also how did you go about explaining your position now to say "worldy" friends or family members?

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Stayed up all night, see it is a cult now.

by gutted in

i really needed to find a place to write this as i don't believe i can talk with anyone else about my account, perhaps it is similar to a lot of yours.. last night for whatever reason i said i would go online and look up information on jws.

i have been raised as a jw all my life and baptized the last few years.

i looked at www.freeminds.org and www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com and couldn't believe how easily the whole of my lifes teachings were refuted.. i can't stop my brain from running, bs just in regards to theology alone (1914, paradise earth, celebrations etc.

gutted

Thanks guys for the well thought out comments, I'm actually quite surprised at the amount of support.

As far as "blue grass", I am no stranger to internet trolls. Hate is much easier than love.

I'll check the boards, but now is time for me to do a lot of reading and study.

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Stayed up all night, see it is a cult now.

by gutted in

i really needed to find a place to write this as i don't believe i can talk with anyone else about my account, perhaps it is similar to a lot of yours.. last night for whatever reason i said i would go online and look up information on jws.

i have been raised as a jw all my life and baptized the last few years.

i looked at www.freeminds.org and www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com and couldn't believe how easily the whole of my lifes teachings were refuted.. i can't stop my brain from running, bs just in regards to theology alone (1914, paradise earth, celebrations etc.

gutted

My main concern is elder backlash. I have one elder, well two, but the one I studied with for over a year before baptisim will no doubt be asking me things. How is it best to deal with these ones when they ask what is wrong, why not going in service, commenting, etc.?

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Stayed up all night, see it is a cult now.

by gutted in

i really needed to find a place to write this as i don't believe i can talk with anyone else about my account, perhaps it is similar to a lot of yours.. last night for whatever reason i said i would go online and look up information on jws.

i have been raised as a jw all my life and baptized the last few years.

i looked at www.freeminds.org and www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com and couldn't believe how easily the whole of my lifes teachings were refuted.. i can't stop my brain from running, bs just in regards to theology alone (1914, paradise earth, celebrations etc.

gutted

Question, how does one deal with field service? Obviously if I stop going altogether that would be odd. Maybe I'll go once or twice a month. As far as procedure, when does one become inactive, after one month of no reported field service time or several?

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Stayed up all night, see it is a cult now.

by gutted in

i really needed to find a place to write this as i don't believe i can talk with anyone else about my account, perhaps it is similar to a lot of yours.. last night for whatever reason i said i would go online and look up information on jws.

i have been raised as a jw all my life and baptized the last few years.

i looked at www.freeminds.org and www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com and couldn't believe how easily the whole of my lifes teachings were refuted.. i can't stop my brain from running, bs just in regards to theology alone (1914, paradise earth, celebrations etc.

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I agree wannabefree. Looking at my percpective just a day or two ago I would think the new information I have gained, without fully digesting or reading it, would make me an apostate, evil. Therefore there is no use to try to tell such things to friends or family, as it would only be a device used to push them further away due to the grasp of the WT.

The great thing is this information is readily available on the internet, and I hope and know more people will access it.

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Stayed up all night, see it is a cult now.

by gutted in

i really needed to find a place to write this as i don't believe i can talk with anyone else about my account, perhaps it is similar to a lot of yours.. last night for whatever reason i said i would go online and look up information on jws.

i have been raised as a jw all my life and baptized the last few years.

i looked at www.freeminds.org and www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com and couldn't believe how easily the whole of my lifes teachings were refuted.. i can't stop my brain from running, bs just in regards to theology alone (1914, paradise earth, celebrations etc.

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Gutted......I forgot to warn you, some people will try to convert you into being an asshole.

LOL, duly noted.

So missed the meeting today to do some actual reading, feels odd.

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Stayed up all night, see it is a cult now.

by gutted in

i really needed to find a place to write this as i don't believe i can talk with anyone else about my account, perhaps it is similar to a lot of yours.. last night for whatever reason i said i would go online and look up information on jws.

i have been raised as a jw all my life and baptized the last few years.

i looked at www.freeminds.org and www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com and couldn't believe how easily the whole of my lifes teachings were refuted.. i can't stop my brain from running, bs just in regards to theology alone (1914, paradise earth, celebrations etc.

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upnorth, I am 26.

Yes at present time I think fadding will be best, I'm not a go out with a bang kinda guy. For now I am going to stop commenting and I think I will withdraw from the ministry school soon. I am not a ministerial servant.

Thoughts?

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Stayed up all night, see it is a cult now.

by gutted in

i really needed to find a place to write this as i don't believe i can talk with anyone else about my account, perhaps it is similar to a lot of yours.. last night for whatever reason i said i would go online and look up information on jws.

i have been raised as a jw all my life and baptized the last few years.

i looked at www.freeminds.org and www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com and couldn't believe how easily the whole of my lifes teachings were refuted.. i can't stop my brain from running, bs just in regards to theology alone (1914, paradise earth, celebrations etc.

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Yes everything is very fresh. I still believe in love as taught by Jesus, but without all the conditions and in fact the traditions of men that the society itself has impossed. How does one go about study of the Bible free from religious pretext and tradition, but still keeping with the principles and ideals of love, justice etc? Is it a scholarly study of the Bible or simply a self-study reading?

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Stayed up all night, see it is a cult now.

by gutted in

i really needed to find a place to write this as i don't believe i can talk with anyone else about my account, perhaps it is similar to a lot of yours.. last night for whatever reason i said i would go online and look up information on jws.

i have been raised as a jw all my life and baptized the last few years.

i looked at www.freeminds.org and www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com and couldn't believe how easily the whole of my lifes teachings were refuted.. i can't stop my brain from running, bs just in regards to theology alone (1914, paradise earth, celebrations etc.

gutted

Thanks again guys!

Sweet pea & ldrnomo, what you have stated really has struck a chord with me.

To be completely honest, I am now feeling liberated mentally. Perhaps as stated being young, and honestly having let "wordly" influences affect me, such as psychology and phylosophy, this all fits into my thinking of rational thought. I feel happy. I suppose the main struggle as you have all pointed out is the fading away.

I will read Crisis of Conscience quickly.

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Stayed up all night, see it is a cult now.

by gutted in

i really needed to find a place to write this as i don't believe i can talk with anyone else about my account, perhaps it is similar to a lot of yours.. last night for whatever reason i said i would go online and look up information on jws.

i have been raised as a jw all my life and baptized the last few years.

i looked at www.freeminds.org and www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com and couldn't believe how easily the whole of my lifes teachings were refuted.. i can't stop my brain from running, bs just in regards to theology alone (1914, paradise earth, celebrations etc.

gutted

Wow guys, thanks so much.

This morning I couldn't hold it in and told my mom.

I was actually quite pleasantly suprised. She has heavy doubts too, and I mentioned many of the things I just read about.

But to her all organizations are really twisted, for instance thinking about politics and if you jump the party fence, the reprocussions. How are people viewed when they are fired or layed off? Not very favourably either. But my sister is not a witness either and my mom has regular contact with her, and I was reassured she would still love me. Of course she wants me to be "spiritually strong".

My main concern at the moment is the financial drive of the WT. I will check out the books listed.

Really appreciate it guys!