Posts by Sayswho

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Is There A Nice Way To Say, 'It's Dying?'?

by metatron in

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i got into one of those extended conversations with relatives i haven't spoken to in ages.

it was full of things unsaid and careful avoidance of saying too much about the organization.

lots of nice social hypocrisy, so nobody gets upset in the fairy-tale world of watchtower-ism.. is there any discreet, tactful, inoffensive way to tell them, "the organization is dying"?

Sayswho

I came across someone this week that I did not know, a nurse...and as she was administering aid to me (nothing serious) she said, “wouldn’t it be nice not to have these problems...and oh how she was looking forwarded to a time when all these things would be a thing of the past…and that her husband is dying…” I said ‘you must be one of JWs and that I was sorry to hear about her husband’ to that she said “why yes how did you know?”

I let her know that I also was a witness and thought by what she was saying she must be a JW too. She went on about the wonderful hopes that we have and what the future holds for us…

At first I was not going to tell her that I was a JW and going to ask her some thought provoking questions about what she was saying…since I felt she had to be a JW, but when she said her husband was dying and how she was looking forward to God resolving these problems I could not bring myself to plant any doubt…I felt it would be cruel (for me) under the circumstances.

And really what right did I have since I did not know her? The hope she has is what keeps her going...helps her get up, go to work, take care of her dying husband, and others in need.

I also feel there is a time and place for everything…we just need to be discerning and use our knowledge at at time when it will help in the best-positive way.
Is missed placed hope better then none? People lived and died to this day without knowing the real answers to life’s questions? Are we any closer to the answers today then 1000 years ago?

There are some good suggestion on this form…we need to apply then at the right time…

IMHO

Sw

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Correction Captives os a C

by Cameron_Don in

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friends

Sayswho

Don... I hope you recover from your health issues. I found your book very helpful and informative. Thank you.

This is taken from that chapter p 133: Something everyone should be required to do before...

It leads to an invitation to their “free Bible study” program. Although
millions of people have accepted their offer, they did so
without ever learning about the organization’s true history.

Sw

224

Where Are You From?

by finallysomepride in

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friends

alot of members don't have a flag or country name beside their user name, and well frequently one doesn't know where that particular person is from, tell us your country, state, county or what ever you feel like giving out.

if you are going to post please at least devulge your country.. me, i'm originally from taranaki, new zealand via auckland.

for the most of this decade i have been living & working in brisbane, queensland, australia.. .

Sayswho

South West Florida (USA)

SW

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The real identity of the F&DS revealed...any news yet?

by Aussie Oz in

recently barbara posted the update on the unthank case and mentioned that more would be revealed soon on the real identity of the faithful slave.. has it been revealed yet?

have i missed it?.

been looking, hoping!.

Sayswho

Some more interesting reading on Steven Unthank and the trial here:

http://jwnews.net/

“The Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Watch Tower Society outright refused to follow their very own procedures. They now have only have themselves to blame. You reap what you sow.

“These men are no longer free from accusation and neither do they have a fine testimony even from people on the outside of the congregation. They are no longer blameless.

Sw

www.Justin.tv/jwlive

by Sayswho in

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Sayswho

I am setting a Justin.tv site for me to do what I can to help get the truth out about the truth...and for personal therapy…a place for me to say what I can within the law. Right now I am pushing up a few pictures as a test. Take a look if you like, constructive criticism welcome. No password is needed at this time. There will be a short commercial after the site is loaded…it will go away in about 30 sec.

Sw

Edited: You can go full screen or pop-out...bottom right of video.

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Proof that the Governing Body is directed by God..

by The Quiet One in

..is there any?

bear in mind what jesus himself said: john 15:24 new international version (niv) 24 if i had not done among them the works no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin.

as it is, they have seen, and yet they have hated both me and my father..

Sayswho

Because they say so... in the April 2010 WT, and more so in the July 2010 study articles, the claim is specifically made that changes in teachings are made by Holy Spirit:

When the time comes to clarify a spiritual matter in our day, Holy Spirit helps responsible representatives of “the faithful and discreet slave” at world headquarters to discern deep truths that were not previously understood. (Matt. 24:45; 1 Cor. 2:13) The Governing Body as a whole considers adjusted explanations. (Acts 15:6) What they learn, they publish for the benefit of all. (Matt.10:27) As time goes on, further clarifications may be needed, and these too are honestly explained.

Sw

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Are you sick of conspiracy nuts?.....9/11

by Witness 007 in

yes apparently the staff at the twin towers on 9/11 didn't notice the explosives strapped to all the beams on each floor......of course a plane fully loaded with jet fuel going so fast it nearly flew through the building {blew out the otherside} would not be enough to cause a collapse.

the building were glowing red!

people jumped due to the heat and smoke.

Sayswho

Oooo my god...do some of us need a life! or do we all? (Divide and conquer)

Really...look at us....ready to do battle with each other over something we have or had no control over. There is something not reasonably right about 911, that much I know, but---What is it?--Who knows...However, let me have all the info surrounding the event so I can decide what appears to be true or more true (if that's possible). DON'T HOLD BACK INFOMATION...you know as well as I that information is 'always' held back. Just take a glance at history and you will see or look at the judicial system in your country.

I would rather be grouped with some of the so called "Wack Jobs" then be with arrogant-condescending people who insist that you not think for yourself.-SO THEREI'll keep my light on--thank you

Sw

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Are you sick of conspiracy nuts?.....9/11

by Witness 007 in

yes apparently the staff at the twin towers on 9/11 didn't notice the explosives strapped to all the beams on each floor......of course a plane fully loaded with jet fuel going so fast it nearly flew through the building {blew out the otherside} would not be enough to cause a collapse.

the building were glowing red!

people jumped due to the heat and smoke.

Sayswho

Well when you start calling people or groups names...I look at you as the one trying to mislead me.Why?

Because you have done what many accuse the Wt and others of doing, and that is, using control words to lead people’s thoughts to yours----by saying they are NUTS or as some have, combined CONSPIRACY and THERORY together… you are discounting what is being said…there by attempting to stop the readers or hearers (mind) from thinking or processing the info on their own.

You plant a seed of doubt from the start.

Just because I may be nuts doesn’t make me wrong “Sometimes you feel like a nut…Sometimes you don’t”

Sw

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Please explain or why God chose this organization to represent him,per JW,s

by jam in

what reasons was given why jehovah looked down.

too earth and said, these are the people that is doing.

my will, they are unbalance, sorry mean unblemish.. they may not get it right for the first 100yrs, but they.

Sayswho

W08 1/15p24: Counted Worthy to Be Guided to Fountains of Waters of Life

“The Lamb . . . will shepherd them, and will guide them to fountains of waters of life.”—REV. 7:17.
GOD’S WORD identifies anointed Christians who are caring for Christ’s interests on earth as “the faithful and discreet slave.” When Christ inspected the “slave” in 1918, he found those anointed ones on earth to be faithful in providing spiritual “food at the proper time.” Hence, Jesus, the Master, was pleased thereafter to appoint them “over all his belongings.” (Read Matthew 24:45-47.) In this way, before receiving a heavenly inheritance, anointed ones serve other worshippers of Jehovah here on earth.

(highlights mine)

Sw

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Higher Education and Disqualification for Privileges in the Congregation

by 00DAD in

when i was still serving as an elder in the late summer of 2006 in a congregation of jws in socal we received a letter from the "christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses" (read: the governing body) directing that anyone pursuing a higher education would be disqualified from privileges of service: elder, servant, pioneer, etc.

i remember this quite distinctly because i had just received by ba in education in june a few months before this.

in 2002, i had decided to pursue a degree under the society's then current "it's a personal decision" policy and was quite shocked at their drastic policy change.

Sayswho

I have yet to see anyone earn beyond a normal living wage by getting a college degree.

Not in this economy.

SO am I reading correctly between your lines....and should not get a education for when the job market does improve?

What's a normal living wage???

I would just like to expand my knowledge! Thanks in advance for the info :)

Sw