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Quote from Rutherford About Organization
by Ding intoday, the watchtower society claims that acts 4:12 shows that only people associated with god's organization have god's favor so that in order to live forever in paradise on earth, people must associate with them as jehovah's organization and serve him as a part of it.
watchtower, 2/15/1983, p. 12.. yet in millions now living will never die (1920, p. 102), rutherford wrote:.
"it is not my thought to hold up the clergy to ridicule, but rather i would appeal to them that they fulfill their duty and obligation to the people in this hour of distress.
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Quote from Rutherford About Organization
by Ding intoday, the watchtower society claims that acts 4:12 shows that only people associated with god's organization have god's favor so that in order to live forever in paradise on earth, people must associate with them as jehovah's organization and serve him as a part of it.
watchtower, 2/15/1983, p. 12.. yet in millions now living will never die (1920, p. 102), rutherford wrote:.
"it is not my thought to hold up the clergy to ridicule, but rather i would appeal to them that they fulfill their duty and obligation to the people in this hour of distress.
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- It's not what's true that matters...it's what they (gb) can make people believe!
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I'm going to end my "bible" study
by KristiKay ini posted a while back, i've been studying with a nice jehovas witness lady for probably about 6 months.
after a few weeks i googled a few things (earthquakes, how long we've been on earth, ect.
) i realised she was very misinformed.
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MADS--You are making a wise decision. Try not to blame the JW, though. She is indoctrinated in a way that even she doesn't understand. Some researchers call it "thought reform" and others call it "mind control." Whatever you want to call it, she is conditioned to think, feel, and act a particular way and to immediately put up barriers when that way is threatened. The mother organization behind the JWs, The Watchtower Society, is to blame, not the individual JWs themselves.
I hope you can help this woman a little and then get yourself OUT.
NICELY PUT...
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1947 Awake Says Excommunication is Unbiblical and Pagan!
by Ding injanuary 8, 1947 awake!:.
excommunication is "altogether foreign to biblical teachings.".
it's an unbiblical roman catholic teaching by which "you are looked upon with the blackest contempt... being cursed and damned with the devil and his angels.".
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Some interesting thoughts on excommunication: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05678a.htm
**It's all irrelevant... The self-righetous (wicked) elders-Gb will do as they please with no real regard to what the SPIRIT of the rules are.
After saying the above...The buck still starts with you...if you commit something like adultery...you know---screw around on your spouse---then you have committed a sin and the punishment is set forth in the bible...IT"S THE SHUNNING THAT IS OUT OF LINE!!! And they know it, that's what makes these elders and GB (all of them) that apply and enforce these rules no better than Hitler and his enforcers.
- GODS SPIRIT DOES NOT MIS-DIRECT---Well at least not his chosen people---RIGHT?
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The Governing Body and the Battle of the Bulge
by metatron ini once read an excellent history of the battle of the bulge.
it pointed out that hitler took a huge gamble because he knew his forces would be ground down otherwise by advancing allies.
he saw what was coming and rolled the dice............. which may explain what the governing body of jehovah's witnesses is doing: demanding loyalty, attacking college, and trying to intensify shunning.. on the surface, growth looks ok but i believe these numbers are a self deceiving illusion.
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MadSThese control methods used by cults are so simple to understand; no psychology degree is required. The information needs to be spread and publicized. We need to NEVER stop talking about it. Information about the REAL truth is the key to ending the tyrrany of the Borg.
I will plant as much info as I can to help educate people about this distructive org...if the "enlightened" are not able to leave then they will know how to work around the unscriptural rules.
It's about what works for you...if the information enables you do things better for yourself and your family...then that is what matters. (IMHO)
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The Governing Body and the Battle of the Bulge
by metatron ini once read an excellent history of the battle of the bulge.
it pointed out that hitler took a huge gamble because he knew his forces would be ground down otherwise by advancing allies.
he saw what was coming and rolled the dice............. which may explain what the governing body of jehovah's witnesses is doing: demanding loyalty, attacking college, and trying to intensify shunning.. on the surface, growth looks ok but i believe these numbers are a self deceiving illusion.
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I am a born-in and over 50...I would of bet my life that I had the "truth", was in the "truth"...I even said how sad it was that people of the "world" could not see or believe the "truth".
- How could they not see, why are they not able to, what is wrong with them...why is Jehovah not letting them see.
- Why am I able to see...oh how grateful I was to be counted so worthy of knowing the "truth" to be one of the "lucky ones" to accept it and not be destroyed at Armageddon...This is how I now see it below...
- The longer Armageddon takes to come...the more that will leave and the less that will join.
- The longer Armageddon takes to come...the less creditable (worthy of belief) they will become.
- The longer Armageddon takes to come...and the more beliefs that are changed the greater the likelihood of the demise of the WT.
- Power to the Internet and the information that is available through it...
- THIS IS ONE OF THE GREATEST FEARS FOR ALL WHO CONTROL PEOPLE: READILY AVAILABLE UNCENSORED INFORMATION
It helped me and continues to be the greatest "TRUTH" DETERMINER!!!......The truth WILL set you FREE!!!
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If You KNEW ALL That Was Expected Of You Would You Have Joined The JWs?
by minimus insince i was in the born in the religion category, i was pretty much indoctrinated from babyhood.
but i wonder if there was a written contract available, how many would so "freely" join?
any opinions?.
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Born-in...in the 1950's...did not have a chance. There would be no reason to become a Jw after knowing the real "truth". What would be the point? Give up your life for lies? They will pay someday!
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Voting a conscience matter??
by Cynisister inhappy new year one and all!,.
the local elders sent a letter home with my hubby, pretty much stating that after "many" attempts to visit and speak with me, this letter is once again asking to meet because it came to their attention that i voted in the last pres.
election.
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Looked this article up on the Wt-CdRom and it says nothing about Dfing someone who votes...Yea RIGHT...No really...but I could read between the lines
- I mentioned this to an elder a while back and he said wellllll...WE are NOT allowed to vote and YOU would be disassociating yourself.
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Ton Ten REASONS why Jehovah's Witnesses simply can't abide reality
by Terry in1.the organization itself denies access to reality and substitutes its own version, interpretations and meanings.. a.only watchtower approved publications are allowed.. b.no higher education is to be pursued.. c.no non-jw friends or associations are encouraged with their "outside" points of view.. d.no free-style questioning of doctrine or criticism permitted.
curiousity is verboten.. e.threat of being "marked" or disassociated looms over them.
2.between every real-world event and the rank and file jw's mind is a roadblock.. a.the moment of identifying is short-circuited by an interpretive moment of re-labeling in watchtower-speak.. b.all things happening are forced into a narrow storyline and propagandized as end times happenings leading to armageddon.. 3.social and personal identity is expunged and replaced by a collective persona: "jehovah's witness".. a.private thinking is red-flagged as selfish and sinful.. b.personal improvement, welfare and ambition is crushed and door-to-door ministry substituted as "worthy" endeavors.. c.self-conscious obsession permeates witness awareness as each person is transformed into a public spectacle of performance for judgement.. d.since you aren't an individual you don't really have a right to fall in love and marry or educate or earn.
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In short: LIFE ITSELF is totally wasted because they are standing at the bus stop waiting and waiting for a bus that just never seems to arrive.
And all the while....life....REAL life goes on and on and on and on...with them totally ill-prepared.
- THE REALITY OF IT ALL...Please...WAKE UP!!!
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Mistresses??
by diana netherton inwhat are your thoughts on them?
would i be a simply terrible person if i became one?.
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(Not until I see his yacht anyway. :)"...Can't Understand Normal Thinking give me a break u are what u are!!! or what u want to be!!!
- Now that we know what you are...we just need to know what your price is.
- KEPT WOMAN...Just a piece of meet...(pass the self respect along with your justification)
- "I'm looking for a pet I can ignore"
By the way...I'm justifying everything I'm saying...SO THERE!!!
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