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3.5 years vs. a lifetime of going door to door.

by tootired2care in

did it bug you as a witness that jesus only had to go from door to door for 3.5 years, and he was done; while he demanded that you do it for your whole life without preparing for the morrow?

i just remember a few years back reflecting on the daunting prospect of doing it my whole life if the end didn't come - "sooner rather than later".

what are your thoughts?.

Sayswho

TEC: Just sayin', in case anyone thinks that he was copping out and asking more of his followers than he did of himself.
Again Jesus was Perfect!!! am I missing something here?
He also knew: WHO HE WAS BEFORE HIS EARTHLY LIFE: Like His heavenly life and He lived for a time in heaven that we humans would consider for the most part already lived FOREVER.
He also knew:WHY HE WAS HERE AND WHAT HE was WILLING / GOING TO DO. It was no surprise to him.
So for me if you are A God or God Like and are aware of everything then it would be just a matter of going through the required motion. Not to diminish what transpired but just stating reality --- it is what it is.
I do believe all of his followers who knew him in the flesh gave their lives for Him and are dead.
Again Jesus was perfect and knew everything--- give me the same and watch what i can do!!! until then don't judge anyone or expect them to do the same as what Jesus did... or for that matter even close to what he could do.

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How Does The Message Attract New Converts In Field Service?

by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

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what attracts new ones into the jw fold these days, the message, the friends, someone to listen to their problems, a personal relationship with god?

what?.

Actually "BA" you make a valid point on "MEN"... and I should of worded my comment differently or not said anything. When my wife and I were out in service with others I never wanted the sisters to go alone or at least not be out of our sight... because of the very reason you stated about meeting "some men" at the door. There were a few times when I had a mini panic attack when we did not know where they were and actually started back-tracking to find them. Not a good feeling!

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3.5 years vs. a lifetime of going door to door.

by tootired2care in

did it bug you as a witness that jesus only had to go from door to door for 3.5 years, and he was done; while he demanded that you do it for your whole life without preparing for the morrow?

i just remember a few years back reflecting on the daunting prospect of doing it my whole life if the end didn't come - "sooner rather than later".

what are your thoughts?.

Sayswho

It stands to reason at least to me...if it was so important to know what God wanted from us he should/would-of let it be know without guessing!

Since our lives (supposedly) depend on knowing this--then He has failed or has He...?
It's not loving to let humans suffer...-nothing is being proven to me to allow this to continue.
It doesn't bring me closer to a god that has the power to bring an end to this but does not!
And 3.5 years versus a lifetime does not add up!!! and besides Jesus was perfect...we are not so I quit comparing myself or anyone else to this (his) standard.

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How Does The Message Attract New Converts In Field Service?

by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

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what attracts new ones into the jw fold these days, the message, the friends, someone to listen to their problems, a personal relationship with god?

what?.

Sayswho

BA----said: "Send our poor sisters to speak with some creepy men"

Really? WOW... So if you are a stay at home man---that makes you a creepy man? Really?? Ok Good to know.

Back to the topic: What is the Message being presented today? From what I can see there is not any real meat in the topic for conversation to SCARE anyone enough to want to listen to the message for long.
Even for those who still go in service, do they feel any real urgency to get new members?
The magazines only contain topics that are able to attract attention for the moment --- and there is nothing beyond that first interest to hold them like there used to be... a sense of life or death for the need to continue... Why? Because the end was so close, but now what? No real hook!

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Preaching work progressing rapidly in China

by biometrics in

only it's not the jehovah's witnesses doing it.. http://www.ultimatetube.com/videos/702/true-revival-in-china-a-must-see-video.

Sayswho

True Revival in China - A must see video
Description: In contrast to the so called healing revivals we sometimes hear about in the West, the Church in China has and is experiencing genuine revival on a Biblical, Apostolic scale. Today alone approximately 30,000 people will get saved in China to add to their 100million plus church. Why? The house church believers display a passion unequaled in the church worldwide mainly due to their circumstances of intense persecution from the Communist government. Many believers spend years in prison for their faith. Brokenness, repentance, humility and a willingness to trust, obey and lay it all down for the Lord has turned China into one of the most remarkable stories in Church history. Must see video that will challenge your faith and who you are in Jesus, to the core. In China there are miracles and even people are raised from the dead, but that is never the emphasis of the house church Christians, the Cross always remains at the center of their faith . In our comfortable Western Christianity, we would do well to learn from China.

REALLY--PROVE IT== In China there are miracles and even people are raised from the dead

Edited: Hallelujah China has been deemed ripe for picking by westernized cults---Amen...maybe they will leave us alone now (sorry China)

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Let's get this memorial party started!

by Megachusen in

jw
friends

i'm being forced to go to this one by my family members so i thought i'd write this out in disgust: http://apostarad.blogspot.com/2012/04/memorial-time-again.html.

i'm serious about getting wasted before i go, by the way.

this will be a night to be remembered..

Sayswho

Bro.D went on to read Isaiah 65:21+ How Jah feels--we will be like the days of trees, toil for nothing, blessed ones and build houses and live in them...BUT we must do something. WE NEED TO GET BAPTIZED THEN take in what John 17:3 says---Knowledge of God, and attend meetings for the good association AND ENGAGE in the Preaching work.

It seemed like one big commercial for the WTBTS.

I was tempted to drink the wine but did not because...well it just seemed wrong to put them through any emotional stress.

I knew many of the over 300 attending and did not want to cause any issues for them or us. Some I know have real "mental" issues and have been dealing with them or years. On the nice side the singing sounded great...NO REALLY IT DID.

I seen no one partake... but Bro. D did mention the attendance last year as 1934737 with 11824 partaking and in Jesus day only 11...(? I think i got the #s correct.) But it seemed they (he) was really trying to stop anyone from partaking with the threat to your life if you were not chosen by God and partook anyway.
No real drama but just sad to look at so many that were still being held captive.

I still find it disconcerting that there is no Bible Scriptures to back up...us -NON ANOINTED- attending as observers. No one seems to question this?

WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO HELP OTHERS WAKE UP AND KEEP OTHERS FROM BEING CAPTIVE. OH AND I hope not to attend next year without partaking.

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Let's get this memorial party started!

by Megachusen in

jw
friends

i'm being forced to go to this one by my family members so i thought i'd write this out in disgust: http://apostarad.blogspot.com/2012/04/memorial-time-again.html.

i'm serious about getting wasted before i go, by the way.

this will be a night to be remembered..

Sayswho

Got back 15 min ago now we are having a drink.

One part that I found this year to be a bit over the top was: The speaker asked how do u know u should partake and used Romans 8:16,17

16 The spirit itself bears witness with our spirit that we are God’s children. 17 If, then, we are children, we are also heirs: heirs indeed of God, but joint heirs with Christ, provided we suffer together that we may also be glorified together.
Then Br D said If u partake u forfeit your earthly hope...so u better be sure that you are part of the little flock. Search yourself be very careful that u are chosen by Jehovah as it means your life...if u partake and are not chosen by God u will not have life anywhere.
He also stated that this was like a wedding ... we are observers as we would be if we attended someone's wedding. Doing nothing but witnessing the event not partakers! ---NO SCRIPTURES GIVEN OR QUOTED... just the statement to observe ONLY!!! SO WHY ARE WE THERE??
There was more... but I need to finish my drink.
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Are you attending the Memorial this year?

by XPeterX in

jw
friends

dunno about you but i'm going..

Sayswho

Wife and I are dressed and getting ready to walk out the door. They will be saying "oooh good at least they came to the Memorial...So they believe... there's still hope for them".

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How many generations do YOU see?

by 00DAD in

Sayswho

4

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what is the all time best example of the WT selective history?

by Aussie Oz in

it's almost like there are so many little things that add up to a lot, a lot of evidence that the wt selectivly presents its history, and even attempts to re-write it at times.. but if you had to choose just one item to prove your point, what would it be?.

oz.

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“At times explanations given by Jehovah’s visible organization have

shown adjustments A , seemingly to previous points of view. But this

has not actually been the case.” The Watchtower (WT), 1981, 12/1 p. 27

Resurrection of Sodomites?

YesWT 1879 p 7, 8

NoWT 1952 p 335

YesWT 1965 p 87, 88

NoWT 1967 p 409

YesAwake! 1974 p 20

NoWT 1988 Jun 1 p 31

YesInsight V1 p 616 ( Jun 17, 1988 )

NoWT 2005 7/15 p 31

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