Thanks cantleave, it gave me a good laugh and there are quite a few valid points that I had not thought about before, such as the lack of oxygen and freezing temperatures when the ark was apparently floating around at over 29,000 feet.
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Great Video -Some Swearing
by cantleave inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i225vcs3x0g&feature=related.
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I think an undercover apostate was sitting near me at the meeting this afternoon
by hoser inthis brother was sitting near me today at the hall and when the public speaker started talking about the signs of the last days this guy started whispering something to his wife and kind of mocking the speaker in a quiet voice.
his wife looked really pissed off.. i've suspected this guy before by some of the stuff he's said and done and some of the #3 talks hes given he's gone off the assigned topic quite a bit.. during the wt study i was doing mics and i happened to walk by him several times.
his wt was on the floor and his bible was opened to topic for conversation at the end of the bible at the last days part.. a little while later his wife gave him the look and said something to him and he picked up his unprepared wt and followed along.. hoser.
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His wife looked really pissed off.
Just tread carefully. Even if he is feeling against it at the moment, it could always backfire if he has a bout of cognitive dissonance and jumps back into it.
I agree with the other posts, you must tread very carefully or you could end up with egg on your face. How well do you know the pissed off wife? Maybe, if you get the chance to chat to her after the meetings, you could do a bit of undercover detective work. She might say something that could give you a better idea of what is going on here, without putting yourself in a vulnerable position.
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Those sweltering assemblies!
by highdose inanyone from the uk remember the assemblies at twickenham?
cytrstal place?
gillingham?.
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Dear Ambersun, you weren't supposed to roll around on the cinder paths !!
Lol wobble I think it was quite hot and very dry as I can remember the cinders blowing up in black clouds round our ankles as we walked along, and I do remember spending a lot of time walking about. I can't remember actually rolling around in it but I have always been rather clumsy and accident prone so I probably tripped up and landed flat on my face at least once during the day!
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Those sweltering assemblies!
by highdose inanyone from the uk remember the assemblies at twickenham?
cytrstal place?
gillingham?.
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Ah yes, Twickenham and the cinder paths, I remember it well. I would arrive there looking like I had just stepped off the pages of a fashion magazine and end the day looking like a poor bedraggled little urchin that needed a good wash, either fried to a crisp or frozen half to death depending on the weather and where we were sitting in the stadium.
The first time I went I was just 15 years old, not bad looking and had spent hours getting ready. I was eager to impress the lads. I wore a pretty, floaty dress and open toe sandles with carefully polished toes. I felt fantastic! As the day progressed I watched with horror as my beautifully manicured and carefully painted toes turned black, as did my face and hands, and my pale floral dress became a scrap of dirty old rag.
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Need ideas for a tract for my anti-witnessing campaign
by serenitynow! inso a friend and i are going to visit the dc this sunday.
my friend has business cards with her exjw facebook and meetup group info.
the plan is to drop info throughout the convention center.
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All the best with your campaign serenitynow!
I totally agree with ABibleStudent's suggestion of simply offering help and support.
We have no way of knowing how many JWs are out there who have doubts or have actually woken up to the truth about the truth. Some of these could be desperate to find a way out, but don't know how to fade and are terrified of losing their families. Maybe your campaign will reach some of them.
Good luck and let us know how you get on
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"this system is in such a financial crisis now! You can see the time is ripe for the end to come!"
by highdose inso said a jw to me recently.
they claimed that:.
1)never before in the history of the world has there been another financial crisis like this!.
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Ever since the days of Russell the WTS have used every catastrophe happening in the world to prove the end is nigh.
Back in the 1960s I used to react like this
But half a century later I'm afraid it's more like
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What do You Like to Drink with Your Sammies?
by White Dove inbeer!.
drinking a smithwick's with my sammie..
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A nice cup of tea
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JW's are so hot on their views being respected but they do not respect anyone elses!
by highdose injw's face a tide of "no"s and "not interested"s everytime they go banging on the doors, surely it would have occurred to them by now that the vast majority of the public don't want to know and don't want them at their doors.
but do they acknowledge or listen to this?
regardless of wether they have priviously been told not to call or not still they come.. they claim that its because jesus has comanded them to do so.
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I can remember being told to ignore the signs on peoples' doors saying 'No Callers, No Circulars' as this did not apply to us. We still knocked their doors and put magazines through the letter box if nobody was in.
However, it was amazing how many JWs had 'No Callers' signs on their own doors and were incensed if anyone ignored it and knocked their doors or left leaflets etc.
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What was your volunteer job(s) at DCs?
by mummatron inseeing as it's that time of year i've been reminiscing.
i used to volunteer as i really struggled to sit still all day, even with all the note-taking and sitting next to the deaf loop system and watching the bsl interpreter to try and learn a bit of bsl.. i have.... counted and voided food tokenspacked fruit bags at a sandwich stallcleaned the stadium at opening and closingcleaned and attended ladies toiletsmanned (or should that be womanned?!
lol) contribution boxeswhat did you do?.
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Like NewChapter I would find myself struggling to do a messy cleaning job wearing a skirt and heels and wishing I could change into my jeans and trainers.
At one convention I was assigned the job of cleaning a filthy, industrial sized food mixer in the kitchens of the hall we were using for a Circuit Assembly, by a jumped up little idiot who was wearing an attendant's badge and thoroughly enjoying lording it over all us humble sisters. I was wearing a brand new white Laura Ashley dress and high heels, and was not given any protective clothing to wear. Why, oh why did I meekly obey orders and ruin my best dress? The food mixer wasn't even used for gawd's sake!! I should have told him where he could stick the food mixer and walked away. What a complete dork I was in those days
One job I did enjoy doing one year at a DC was walking round the grounds of the stadium with a food tray round my neck selling snacks. I was sensible enough to remember to wear flat sandles for that job
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Why do I no longer get attacked and persecuted by the demons, since I left JW,s ?
by pedal power inmost jw.s really believe that they ( as we once did ) are promoting gods will, but what if they really are ?
is it possible that god is supporting them even though they (governing body ) lie, because most jw,s are ignorant of the lies told on their behalf, ?.
when i was a jw i got attacked by the demons bigtime, but not now, and i can only assume that they (demons ) are happy that i am no longer a jw and are now leaving me alone, cant think of any other reason, has god ever supported a group who were similarly found wanting ?.
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I would not presume to speak on behalf of others, but my own personal opinion is that the very real and frightening demon attacks I used to think I experienced were the direct result of mind control tactics, and the power of suggestion on a vulnerable mind. I was being scared half to death week after week sitting through countless meetings warning about Satan and his demons being everywhere, looking for ways to get me. Stories of JWs being given gifts that turned out to have demons in them and the terrifying ordeals they went through trying to get rid of the things. No wonder I was paranoid and thought I saw and experienced things. As already mentioned, this is a tactic used by many religions to control their flocks, not just JWs.
It is amazing how, since realising these things do not actually exist, I have never had any problems at all. I can read whatever I like, watch any film, buy antiques and pre-owned items without needing to find out who owned them before me and the worry that they might be demonised.
It's great to be free