Update: another pastebin page for the Operation Watchtower: http://pastebin.com/iKEpnKEc
More information on what's going on.
Okay, just looked at this page, it's more general attack on pedophilia that they grouped the WTBTS with.
Soldier77
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About Anonymous they are working on things as we speak!
by life is to short insoldier 77 just posted this about two hours ago but i think his post got lost is the great debate and straw mans that another posters was throwing around.. anyway i hope soldier 77 does not mind if i make a thread from his insight.
soldier 77 "this seems to have missed in the tangent argument going on: http://pastebin.com/3nitctlf.
anonymous are needing some more people on the inside to help.
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Jehovah's Witnesses, the culture of paranoia, and the "Anonymous" cyber attack
by sir82 inhave you ever met people more suspicious and paranoid than jws?.
"did you hear about the demon-possessed smurfs?....play that record backward and it says 'worship satan!
'....world war 2 was started by satan as an attempt to eradicate jehovah's witnessess....the un has secret plans to attack religion soon - i heard it from my 3rd cousin's nephew's chiropractor....'they' are sneaking blood products into candy bars....".
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I whole heartedly agree with you sir82! Their weakness should be exploited. They are a very fearful and paranoid group. Any attack, it's satan, any lawsuits against them that they lose, it's the great tribulation starting...
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The effects and repercussions of a cyber attack on WTBTS
by Soldier77 inthis is pure speculation on my part and i hope to get some others to join in sharing their thoughts on this topic.. with the recent push by "mother" to rely heavily on their site jw.org, correspondance to elder bodies, publication downloads, library access, imagine the impact an attack to their site could produce to the organization.. here we have the gb jumping on the bandwagon, late as usual, but still trying to grasp the internet, and saying that it's "okay" to use the internet, and when you do, please go to our site.
so you have a lot of people that may have been die hard, anti-internet because it's from the devil, now saying, okay, lets get a computer, get internet service and hop online..... that's where all hell breaks loose.
they log on the great world wide web and type in the "officially backed" website.... and bam!
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I like that idea sir82, subtle little doubts and even if not true, they will start to question anything that sounds... "off".
I also agree that the message should be subtle, not blatant in your face "apostate", we want them to be as professional as possible even in an area like this....
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The effects and repercussions of a cyber attack on WTBTS
by Soldier77 inthis is pure speculation on my part and i hope to get some others to join in sharing their thoughts on this topic.. with the recent push by "mother" to rely heavily on their site jw.org, correspondance to elder bodies, publication downloads, library access, imagine the impact an attack to their site could produce to the organization.. here we have the gb jumping on the bandwagon, late as usual, but still trying to grasp the internet, and saying that it's "okay" to use the internet, and when you do, please go to our site.
so you have a lot of people that may have been die hard, anti-internet because it's from the devil, now saying, okay, lets get a computer, get internet service and hop online..... that's where all hell breaks loose.
they log on the great world wide web and type in the "officially backed" website.... and bam!
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This is pure speculation on my part and I hope to get some others to join in sharing their thoughts on this topic.
With the recent push by "mother" to rely heavily on their site jw.org, correspondance to elder bodies, publication downloads, library access, imagine the impact an attack to their site could produce to the organization.
Here we have the GB jumping on the bandwagon, late as usual, but still trying to grasp the internet, and saying that it's "okay" to use the internet, and when you do, please go to our site. So you have a lot of people that may have been die hard, anti-internet because it's from the devil, now saying, okay, lets get a computer, get internet service and hop online....
That's where all hell breaks loose. They log on the great world wide web and type in the "officially backed" website.... and BAM! Infiltrated, with links or information that hopefully make them stop and think, but regardless, they will run away scared. Maybe even thinking they typed the wrong address, maybe going back and re-typing it and re-searching for it... damage is already done, one way or the other.
Another aspect...
All the email addresses being mined and given to the cause, imagine an email blast to all coming from the "official" web address that they usually get their "official" correspondance from and BAM! Think about that for a second. We're talking thousands, maybe (probably tens of thousands) of email addresses. What if you woke up one morning and saw an "official" email from mother and open it and get some information that blows you away. The damage is already done.
Also imagine the amount of data that is being mined as I type this by the people of Anonymous. The amount of "secrets" that can be used against them. There will be those witnesses that will circle the wagons even tighter and claim it's Armageddon/Great Tribulation starting and cling tighter to the group think, but there will be many that finally say, you know what, the evidence is overwhelming.
If many are like me, when growing up, if I was told not to do something, I would do it, if I was told to don't ask just do, I would ask and not do. The more they come out and say DO NOT more people will say, oh yeah? Watch me!
With the org finally embracing the internet and changing quite a bit of procedures of late, this assault could cripple them extensively. The damage this strike could have may not deal the death blow to the org, but the hit would be stunning, I strongly believe they have no idea what or how hard they will be hit. I don't even know that!
We live in the information age, where emails are secondary to social websites for communication, where blogs, vlogs, independant news sources are the norm. A sack on the WTBTS attempt to 'embrace' the internet this soon in their attempts to do so could leave them with their mouths wide open and asking... WTF just happened?
This year it started with the Sparlock gaffe, something small, but made a lot of witnesses (the ones I've talked to) raise their eyebrows and give comments along the lines of whatever, that's not a real family and that's not how a real family operates. Then the Conti case, which for me personally was the final nail in the coffin to bury the org. Now attention by Anonymous.
The information that is being brought together is probably already known, by us anyway, it's all probably out there on the net to some degree. So what's the difference this time? This time, it's a concentrated attempt, an organized attempt to bring all information all at once to bear. It's the first attempt to get all of the "ammo" we have on the WTBTS and instead of popping off shots one at a time, it's bringing all that ammo all that weaponry to the fight at one time. That's powerful.
Is it legal? No. But sometimes you have to fight evil with evil. Have I done anything illegal to support this cause? No. Unless being supportive vocally and actively is a crime?
What are your thoughts about the possibilities this could mean? I know it sounds like I'm giving this a lot of hope that it will destroy them, but I'm realistic too, it may just be hype and nothing comes of it.
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About Anonymous they are working on things as we speak!
by life is to short insoldier 77 just posted this about two hours ago but i think his post got lost is the great debate and straw mans that another posters was throwing around.. anyway i hope soldier 77 does not mind if i make a thread from his insight.
soldier 77 "this seems to have missed in the tangent argument going on: http://pastebin.com/3nitctlf.
anonymous are needing some more people on the inside to help.
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Just a bit of warning guys, if you are submitting information to the cause, be ANONYMOUS. Do not tag it with any username, real name, call sign, whatever, you do NOT want it linked back to you.
Be helpful, contribute, but do so intelligently. Be safe. Be anonymous...
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About Anonymous they are working on things as we speak!
by life is to short insoldier 77 just posted this about two hours ago but i think his post got lost is the great debate and straw mans that another posters was throwing around.. anyway i hope soldier 77 does not mind if i make a thread from his insight.
soldier 77 "this seems to have missed in the tangent argument going on: http://pastebin.com/3nitctlf.
anonymous are needing some more people on the inside to help.
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Updates are up this morning. You'll have to do some looking, but they are getting some good intel.
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Do you think this message would tempt me back to the loving arms of the cong?
by HappyOutsideTheBox ina 25 year old relative of mine was being stalked last week by an older woman.
the police were involved and the perpetrator arrested.. as it was the convention and his uber zealous, hypocritical mother- aka my sister, was going to be absent from home i called to see how he was doing.
in the course of the conversation i referred to 50 shades of grey' (the stalker had fantasised about him being mr grey).
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Tell sorry, already on my high horse. The high horse of life! Now, go f*** yourself!
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by Band on the Run ini'm anglican now.
overall, i love it but sometimes i want a rule/doctrine.
the witnesses were always so empahtic that bethel leaders knew all, down to what type of pots to use.
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I guess I'm a Theosophist. Yes, I just looked it up... lol
That's how new I am to learning my current beliefs and building them...
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by Band on the Run ini'm anglican now.
overall, i love it but sometimes i want a rule/doctrine.
the witnesses were always so empahtic that bethel leaders knew all, down to what type of pots to use.
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I've been to a couple different churches and I too was amazed at how different they are from being a JW. I wouldn't say for the better yet, I can't really make a true comparison only attending once of the two different faiths. To tell you the truth, I can't even remember what denomination they were now. That's how little of an impact they made on me.
I did like the openness and more casual attire. The sermons were a lot shorter too, I thought, that's it? lol! As far as singing, one had a big screen with the words projected up on it, it was pretty nifty.
Now I don't believe in the bible. I believe in a creator, whatever that may be, I believe we were meant to use our power of thinking and intelligence to reason out the universe for ourselves and grow. Not to be locked into a silly faith for 3 thousand years.
I guess I've become one that seeks truth, no matter from what source it comes from now. Maybe I'm a pagan now? I've enjoyed reading up on Hermeticism and occult philosophy. To me those things have been more "aha ha" moments.
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Question about reporting fellow JWs.
by maninthemiddle ini have searched but not found an answer yet.
does anyone remember what scriptures they base reporting another person's "wrongdoing" to the elders?.
i put "wrongdoing" in quotes so i could user their term and you could be reported for anything.. i know they have used the scripture about going to the person first, that is rarely followed, i know it is common practice to tell on eachother, i just can't remember if they even pretend to make it scriptual.. thanks.
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Yes, Matt 18:15-17 is the one about going to the person first to try to resolve the issue then go to the elders about the person if they don't listen to your "advice", aka report your fellow brother.