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  1914: Still Important to Watchtower in 2012

  by leavingwt in

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  98 years later, the 1914 date is still important to the watchtower organization.. .

  below is a screenshot of a portion of page 19 from the may 15, 2012 watchtower magazine.. .

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  "Name a religion that doesn't have a structure of lies holding itself up"

  What is so evil is that this IS the response they give in forums to the false teaching charges against them,once you try to pin them down,and it's the same subterfuge the Scientologist use.

  They are willfully committing fraud for god.The Watchtower defrauded millions of followers me and my clan,of our time,lives,education,faith,money....
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  1914: Still Important to Watchtower in 2012

  by leavingwt in

  1. watchtower
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  98 years later, the 1914 date is still important to the watchtower organization.. .

  below is a screenshot of a portion of page 19 from the may 15, 2012 watchtower magazine.. .

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  Refriedtruth

  I started door to door in 1960 the 1914 algorithm is the ENTIRE foundation of the Watchtower doctrinal superstructure.

  Back in 1960,70....the 1914 generation date was all we talked about it was every new recruits primer.

  IT WAS / IS ALL A LIE

  It comes straight from William Miller Terry the poster here has masterful threads up on Captain Miller.
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  As the Vatican goes so goes Bethel

  by designs in

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  the vatican is rocked with scandal beyond the horrible accounts of the conduct by the priests.

  corruption, power brokers, choices of cardinals, finances at the vatican bank.

  the aging pope is said to be reclusive much like fred franz in his waining days, interested in his library and sermons and not able to govern.. see yahoo news story on "'monsignors' mutiny".

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  The Watchtower (aka Russelites aka millennial dawners aka Bible students aka International Bible students aka Jehovah's Witnesses) started out perhaps with the most noble intentions as do all the little Christian 'protestant' that is they who protest against the big bad religious machinations and turned out just like the big bad guys they sought to puritan from

  The Watchtower is a little mini Vatican
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  Reform on blood issue?!?!

  by Wishididntknow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not sure of the validity of this but i thought i would put out there.... danny hazard seems like a loose cannon...but...your thoughts?.

  associated jehovah's witnesses for reform on blood are announcing the beginning of the end of the jehovah's witness blood doctrine.. since 2000 the watchtower society was forced to change their semantics on how they handle punishing its members for taking blood transfusions to save their lives.the european court of human rights negotiated this change when the country of bulgaria refused to acknowledge the watchtower society as a religion, due to the fact that the watchtower punished its members for accepting needed medical procedures to save their own, or their children's lives with blood transfusions.. but ajwrb has been tracking the development of these changes, and we have searched for any actual occurrences of a jw (who wants to stay a jw) getting disassociated for taking a blood transfusion.we have not found a one.

  in the past we have not been able to get watchtower service dept.

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  ex360shipper said-"There would at least be a letter to all bodies of elders if this were true and we would find out very quickly."

  Not necessarily a letter would be evidentiary possibly used against them they would utilize the word of mouth grapevine and phone calls.

  Every move the Watchtower makes is examined,decided and scrutinized on the basis of,liability of potential lawsuits.Their scapegoat that they tell followers, is that this is because of 'sue happy' apostates.

  The lawyers run the show since the early 1990's the WBTS only cares about their ego and their money.Thousands of deaths for blood transfusion confusion is in Jehovah's hands.

  Always blame Jehovah and apostates as fall guys.
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  I think a lot of older (maybe younger ones) JW's are going to attempt/commit suicide....(READ)

  by Joliette in

  1. jw
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  i've been in lurkmode lately, but with the news that i heard about don cornelius dying, it had me thinking...as this world goes on, and people are coping with this world...i think a lot jw's are going to realize that the end of the world isnt coming...there gonna become more despert, the realities of having to work, pay off debts, etc.

  a lot of jw's are going to realize that no magical sky daddy is come and 'take away there problems' and i think the more that they start to realize this, they get older, and there gonna start hating the reality that they have to face.

  i had a good friend who's father-in- law (who was a ministrial servant) who had bipolar disorder, killed himself in his car back in 2007. it was sad.

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  The Watchtower Jehovah's Witnesses ARE an apocalyptic society read apocalyptic cult.

  Suicide is sometimes expressed as homicide/suicide,I really do not get it ... how anybody born a JW (me from the 1950's) can still support it.

  They aways drilled and grilled us on the king of the north jazz with us giving the final showdown warning message of actually going door to door and TELLING THE GOATS TO THEIR FACES THEY WERE GOING TO DIE.Whenever I would get queasy and not want to go out in service as a kid my Elder dad would remind me that we would have to give the warning message so toughen up.

  That is a total homicidal apocalyptic cult to the core no wonder we are all F**ked up.So my point is, one or more witnesses in 2012 could decide to f**k it all and go up to a do-not-call or apostate house to pick a fight,get assaulted and go out in a martyred blaze of glory.

  Kool aid like jonestown it scares me as I got lots of family still in
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  On giving blood

  by Dogpatch in

  1. jw
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  hi friends,.

  we have a drive at our new ajwrb.org site for donating blood for witnesses!

  great publicity campaign, as people will finally realize that jehovah's witnesses do take blood transfusions!time to end the word-game charade.

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  Taking fractions of blood derivatives is a matter of individual conscience for Jehovah’s Witnesses, just like some people feel they should in conscience be vegetarians. In that context if one said they would not eat meat, would it be logical to argue that eating the components that make meat really is the same as not eating meat? Of course not! {I have commited vegeterian vegan friends who totally abstain from any and all animal products they know what abstain means} Useful facts: 1) Jehovah's Witnesses now accept EVERY fraction of blood except the skin of the red blood cell. 2) Hemopure is apparently whole (cow's) blood. 3) Red Cross ALWAYS take the white blood cells out of blood... i.e. no whole blood transfusion except on the battlefield. They literally throw them away, as they represent the PATHOGENS of the former donor!
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  On giving blood

  by Dogpatch in

  1. jw
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  hi friends,.

  we have a drive at our new ajwrb.org site for donating blood for witnesses!

  great publicity campaign, as people will finally realize that jehovah's witnesses do take blood transfusions!time to end the word-game charade.

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  WOW LOOK AT THIS Cost of Jehovah's Witnesses refusing blood could treat 25,000 in Africa! BMJ 1999;318:873 ( 27 March )Letters Costs incurred by one severely ill Jehovah's Witness could run one unit in Africa for one year EDITOR Minerva reports that a Jehovah's Witness survived emergency surgery for a leaking abdominal aneurysm despite havinga postoperative haemoglobin concentration of only 30 g/l; he spent14 weeks in hospital.1Those of us who work in rural Africacan only wonder how much it cost in the face of claims of rationingand cost cutting in the NHS. Such a stay must easily have costa six figuresum. Here in Uganda for £250 000 a year we can treat 25 000 outpatients and 7000 inpatients, conduct over 1000 deliveries, andperform 1500 operations. We run a community health programme for500 000 people. The costs incurred by this one patient might runour unit for a whole year. Will the time come when a religiousgroup will be charged the costs of keeping its members alive?Ethically one may feel that one should do everything, whateverthe cost; at the end of the financial year, however, electivesurgery that could be life improving has to becancelled. The choice is easy here in Uganda. When a child who has severe anaemia from malaria with hookworm infestation and undernutrition comes in the choice is simple: he or she has a transfusion ordies. Nicholas Wooding , Medical superintendent. Kiwoko Hospital, PO Box 149, Luweero, Uganda Minerva. BMJ 1998; 317: 690 . (5 September.) http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/318/7187/873/a Link is still hot
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  On giving blood

  by Dogpatch in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi friends,.

  we have a drive at our new ajwrb.org site for donating blood for witnesses!

  great publicity campaign, as people will finally realize that jehovah's witnesses do take blood transfusions!time to end the word-game charade.

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  Apocalyptic cult
  These two words define the Jehovah's Witnesses.
  
  Many of their issues and problems are reckoned to be solved and dissolved with the impeding end of the world apocalyptic Armageddon.
  In year 1945 the Watchtower president decreed that blood transfusions were 'eating of blood' under O.T. Kosher law.
  At that time 100% of the tiny Jehovah's Witnesses expected Armageddon any moment they NEVER imagined that the JW would grow to 7 million in 2012 with no end of the world in sight.The JW leadership (Gene Smalley) NEVER imagined that tens of thousands of followers would go on to perish because this *Satanic system* is still hanging on and hasn't come to an end yet..
  
  Because they are an apocalyptic cult they think the end of the world is going to fix all their problems and make them go away.This apocalyptic mentality permeates everything JW even with individuals getting into deep financial debt,expecting Armageddon to free them.
  
  So, meantime they have watered down the no blood dogma and latched on to medical advances like *artificial blood* and surgical blood conservation methods even plagiarizing credit for it.Most of these bloodless advances are due to SHORTAGES in the blood supply not because the Jehovah's Witnesses have *pioneered* a better way.
  
  The Watchtower society governing body is in a tight fight for it's life not to be liability sued out-of-existence, hoping medical miracles like artificial blood will *deliver them from evil*.
  All because they are an apocalyptic cult.
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  On giving blood

  by Dogpatch in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi friends,.

  we have a drive at our new ajwrb.org site for donating blood for witnesses!

  great publicity campaign, as people will finally realize that jehovah's witnesses do take blood transfusions!time to end the word-game charade.

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  A Blood transfusion to Watchtower leader is like psychiatry to a Scientologist. Contact the Red Cross on line to find the location of a blood drive near you. Give the gift of life! EIGHTY percent of Jehovah's Witnesses will sneak a blood transfusion http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/208719/1/80-Accept-Blood-Transfusion
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  On giving blood

  by Dogpatch in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi friends,.

  we have a drive at our new ajwrb.org site for donating blood for witnesses!

  great publicity campaign, as people will finally realize that jehovah's witnesses do take blood transfusions!time to end the word-game charade.

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  Refriedtruth

  Jehovah's Witnesses now accept EVERY fraction of blood except the skin of the red blood cell .
  
  Only a small fraction of JWs still reject blood transfusions. those members that don't accept blood are a fringe group of extremist JWs,not the majority. More and more JWs are accepting blood every day. The doctrine is over and gone the way of their rejection of vaccinations and organ transplants