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1914: Still Important to Watchtower in 2012

by leavingwt in

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98 years later, the 1914 date is still important to the watchtower organization.. .

below is a screenshot of a portion of page 19 from the may 15, 2012 watchtower magazine.. .

Refriedtruth

1914 was stlill important in 2007 look at this gem sent my way

http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=47112 click here save to your hard-drive before it gets archived This was their official Press Release as recent as 2007 conventions

Originally Published: 6/23/2007
Key dates for Jehovah’s Witnesses

1870s: Charles Taze Russell starts the modern-day organization from a Bible study group in Allegheny, which is now a part of Pittsburgh. Members were known as “Bible Students.”

1881: Russell forms the Zion’s Watch Tower Tract Society, which begins to publish religious material for Bible students.

1893: First publicly advertised meeting in Chicago.

1914: The Second Coming of Jesus Christ, who now rules in heaven.
1935: Name of group changed to “Jehovah’s Witnesses,” based on Isaiah 43:10. Also changed the name to distinguish the religion from Christian denominations.

1930s-40s: Jehovah’s Witnesses take a series of cases to U.S. Supreme Court. The group wins decisions allowing members to preach without a license, not say the Pledge of Allegiance and other rights.

Source: Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania

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JW apologist trolls when debated will often deny Jesus second coming in 1914 saying that this is the fabricated invention of apostates,mostly they are silent and don't reply.

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Children suffering death!

by Marvin Shilmer in

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friends

children suffering death!

today i added a new article to my blog documenting the stark reality of what unsuspecting children face as a result of watchtowers blood doctrine.

it is not for the squeamish.

Refriedtruth

Thank you Marvin,of all issues scandals that the general population has with Jehovah's Witnesses,letting their children die over the blood dogma is #1

It is the most notorious

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Reform on blood issue?!?!

by Wishididntknow in

not sure of the validity of this but i thought i would put out there.... danny hazard seems like a loose cannon...but...your thoughts?.

associated jehovah's witnesses for reform on blood are announcing the beginning of the end of the jehovah's witness blood doctrine.. since 2000 the watchtower society was forced to change their semantics on how they handle punishing its members for taking blood transfusions to save their lives.the european court of human rights negotiated this change when the country of bulgaria refused to acknowledge the watchtower society as a religion, due to the fact that the watchtower punished its members for accepting needed medical procedures to save their own, or their children's lives with blood transfusions.. but ajwrb has been tracking the development of these changes, and we have searched for any actual occurrences of a jw (who wants to stay a jw) getting disassociated for taking a blood transfusion.we have not found a one.

in the past we have not been able to get watchtower service dept.

Refriedtruth

Randy makes a good case with clarification over perception and legality:

(It's called Watchtower legalese mealy mouthing)

"In the case of blood transfusions, they are making a big deal out of it in assembly parts while at the same time telling others in the Service Dept. what to say (contradictory) to the hurt or dying Witness.

Corporations don't care if their employees die so much as they care about their perceived omniscience. Corporations are entities with their own ego and will, and they always sacrifice others to make good. "

Randy's blog here http://www.freeminds.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3168:jehovahs-witnesses-take-blood&catid=8:randys-blog&Itemid=571
Sooooo, my take is this,the Watchtower puts up a frontal facade that we abstain from blood it's a capital offense while their internal ecclesiastical courts ( blood liaison committee and local congregation judicial committees) have in fact not actually disfellowshipped a baptized member for taking 'whole blood'.

Blood dogma is a paper tiger full of legalistic loop-holes? Loop holes that cause 'transfusion confusion' especially in emergency room dramas that get men,women,children KILLED.

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Letter to the Writing Department from Barbara Anderson

by Dogpatch in

jw
friends

i thought i knew you.

an open letter from barbara anderson to watch towers writing department.

in 1517, martin luther wrote in a letter to archbishop albert of mainz: you must graciously forgive that i, that scum of the earth, am so bold as to dare to address a letter to you.. yes, i know, you think of me as scum, just like mainz believed of luther, wondering how i dare write you a letter, someone jehovahs witnesses disfellowshipped back in 2002. i was accused of being an unrepentant sinner and condemned for causing divisions, then labeled apostate because i spoke out publicly on nbcs dateline tv program aboutthe child sexual abuse policies that protected pedophiles policies that you helped formulate.

Refriedtruth

Barb is the best

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1914: Still Important to Watchtower in 2012

by leavingwt in

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98 years later, the 1914 date is still important to the watchtower organization.. .

below is a screenshot of a portion of page 19 from the may 15, 2012 watchtower magazine.. .

Refriedtruth

Robbing William Miller's Grave, origin of the 1914 dogma

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/203744/1/Robbing-William-Millers-Grave-Part-3-The-man-who-changed-YOUR-LIFE

One of at least 3 threads Terry has up on William Miller who started it all

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1914: Still Important to Watchtower in 2012

by leavingwt in

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98 years later, the 1914 date is still important to the watchtower organization.. .

below is a screenshot of a portion of page 19 from the may 15, 2012 watchtower magazine.. .

Refriedtruth

My clan consist of 4 gens of JW both sides maternal paternal the first gen grandparents are deceased.

I was usually the anchor alpha supporter until my dfing 20 years ago now my twin JW brother is and he has made it clear if I want to speak to my family I must never talk negative about JW.

That's it

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1914: Still Important to Watchtower in 2012

by leavingwt in

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98 years later, the 1914 date is still important to the watchtower organization.. .

below is a screenshot of a portion of page 19 from the may 15, 2012 watchtower magazine.. .

Refriedtruth

So,what will they do?

Exactly what they have been embellishing last 10 years emphasis on nice and Nobel God's Kingdom.It's the fall back position good ole generic safe God's Kingdom.

Don't you want God's Kingdom in your life?And by comparison the other Churches appeal is ,don't you want to get to heaven?

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1914: Still Important to Watchtower in 2012

by leavingwt in

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98 years later, the 1914 date is still important to the watchtower organization.. .

below is a screenshot of a portion of page 19 from the may 15, 2012 watchtower magazine.. .

Refriedtruth

The 1914 end times Watchtower creed plagiarized from William Miller algorithm is by the Watchtower's OWN admission their central doctrine (creed).

Most all belief systems have a creed "Christendom" has the trinity as their creed , Islam has Muhammad,Mormons got Jesus came to America Joseph Smith and golden plates.

The Unitarian Universalism specifically advertise they are the church with no creed (anything goes)

Well 1914 is the creed foundation doctrine that in the old days they proudly proclaimed that they were the ONLY religion who advertise advertise advertise the heralders of Christ presence.

The primary justification for being labeled evil slave was by failing the 1914 loyalty oath.

I believe they will abandon it and it will be the same to outsiders and us 'apostates as the Catholic Church renouncing Mary saying she never existed.The JW will not miss a beat it will just be new light from Jehovah's progressive 'visible' organization.

A true cult.

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1914: Still Important to Watchtower in 2012

by leavingwt in

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98 years later, the 1914 date is still important to the watchtower organization.. .

below is a screenshot of a portion of page 19 from the may 15, 2012 watchtower magazine.. .

Refriedtruth

The Watchtower may never have to resolve 1914 it could just fade away unless....another Ray Franz heavyweight from the inner circle comes clean.

I can tell you this in 30 years the people like me who lived (and died) for 1914 and the inventors of 1914 will all be dead.I can remember many discussions of the pyramids and how they were used for the truth,that's right this is early 1960's.Now few JW alive remember the pyramids.It was a favorite rave by my own JW grandfather.

As recently as the inspiring 1980 yearbook on the experiences of the faithful bros in France who stayed loyal to 1914 after the great 'evil slave ' falling away.

There was a Cong in Plymouth mass were my father who gave public talks and they were all old Russelites.The memories and the lingo will all evolve,dissolve and fade away.Those who left just couldn't keep up with Jehovah's celestial chariot.

BUT these freedom of mind apostates web pages will also get boosted and the WBTS could still come crashing down from another kind of scandal that we may not be on to yet.

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1914: Still Important to Watchtower in 2012

by leavingwt in

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98 years later, the 1914 date is still important to the watchtower organization.. .

below is a screenshot of a portion of page 19 from the may 15, 2012 watchtower magazine.. .

Refriedtruth

1914 was the ONLY time they ever managed to accidentally hit on a date wherein something actually HAPPENED....
As in, World War One....

Actually they didn't even get 1914 correct,there was a cluster of dates 1914 hit like winning the lottery

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/195134/1/ Did-the-WT-totally-luck-out-with-World-War-I-starting-in-1914

Refriedtruth

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