Posts by Refriedtruth

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Jehovah's Witnesses cease to exist before the year 2000

by rory-ks in

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friends

september 1st, 2012, can be marked down in the theocratic calendar as the day the watchtower bible and tract society marched shamelessly into the 21st century.

on that day, jw.org, official website of jehovah's witnesses, went live, and with one strike the organisation put a match to its past.. .

seek out the society's online library, its searchable database of publications, and you will soon see that it has only made available literature published since the year 2000. inclusion of the generic work, insight on the scriptures, is of no consequence.

Refriedtruth

The Watchtower is fond of hurling denunciations against the Catholic church for it's ancient history.

I was born Jehovah's Witness 1957 a 3rd generation there are now FIVE gens of my clan and I am the only 'apostate'.

There is NOTHING that the Watchtower can do that will make them leave the cult,and that is the same for most religious persons.

Right now they will say that the watchtower erased their past mistakes so apostates (like me) won't use it against the society.

No foolin that is what they will say!

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ADVERTISING METHODS OF THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY

by wasblind in

advertise, advertise, advertise the kingdom with !!!!!!!!!!!.

hidden fees and surcharges : which are expectations not disclosed to the unsuspectin' householder.

'going out of business sale' : in which folks sold their homes cuz this world was to end in 1975. misuse of the word free : "freewill" is not devoid of cost or obligation.

Refriedtruth

"Jehovah's Witnesses are schooled in 'finding common ground',if you like pink elephants they will become experts on pink elephants. That's the beauty of religion and superstition, it has no limits.Religion is the most profitable legal business because religions can misquote, misrepresent, and use unethical practices without fear of punishment. It's the absolute best way to scam people I have yet seen"-Gary Buss My comment-If there is in fact a Jesus,the Watchtower is in as much or more condemnatory judgement as the Catholic church.

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Game changer for Jehovah's Witnesses ? Bishop CONVICTED for failure to REPORT. NY Times.

by Balaamsass in

tonight in new york times.

what will this mean for elders, service desk bethelites, c.o.s and d.o.s....possible jail time ?.

kansas city bishop convicted of shielding pedophile priest.

Refriedtruth

Roger that!

The prosecutor said: “Defendant Finn is the ultimate authority. The buck does stop with him.”

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Any suggestions on handling financial abuse of a senior by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society?

by Balaamsass in

does anyone here have any suggestions on handling financial abuse of a senior by the watchtower bible and tract society?

mom gave a lot of money to the watchtower bible and tract society over her lifetime- (6 figures).

after she ran low on funds she made a 5 figure "conditional loan" to wtb&ts.

Refriedtruth

Remember everyone the Watchtower is a tax free religious entity and fabulously wealthy.

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where is that quote in the WT on even thinking against the WT constitutes apostasy?

by WildeLover in

can someone direct me to that quote ?

i think it was back in the 80s?

i have looked and can't find it anywhere?.

Refriedtruth

Jehovah's Witnesses are taught to avoid and shun those who simply want to leave the organization, called dissasociating. See Watchtower April 15, 1988 page 26-28 You cannot leave without being shunned. If you are in for 3 generations like my family, you will loose all your friends and family in one single day! And you will be hated by those still in the organization. Anyone who does not accept the organization as the ONLY way to God is hated See WT Oct 1, 1993 page 19 . Disfellowshipping isn't to be found in the Bible. Even checking the scripture/word index in their own NWT JW Bible reveals this.The Scriptures that they do twist/apply (not to say a greeting) have to do with shunning the ANTI-Christ The nearest I can see to their Dfing practice it is the trial of Jesus. The shunning practiced by Jehovah's Witnesses is a shame device cult control tactic and the entire family is cut-off.

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where is that quote in the WT on even thinking against the WT constitutes apostasy?

by WildeLover in

can someone direct me to that quote ?

i think it was back in the 80s?

i have looked and can't find it anywhere?.

Refriedtruth

Apostate 'baiting'like patriotism it's the last refuge of the scoundrel

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where is that quote in the WT on even thinking against the WT constitutes apostasy?

by WildeLover in

can someone direct me to that quote ?

i think it was back in the 80s?

i have looked and can't find it anywhere?.

Refriedtruth

The Judicial committee elders WILL underhandedly use a 'secret' BOE citation against the defendant in proceedings.

All secret stuff just like the Kangaroo courts themselves.They disfellowshipped me for apostasy and never even uttered the word.

There were 6 elders sitting around in a circle with me center.This was to intimidate me like gestapo Inquisition.I was told earlier year by elder T*m W. that apostasy was the # 1 cause for disfellowshipping and that *quote* "not taking counsel was apostasy *unquote*

Rockland Massachusetts Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses

My comment on year date below 1980 was the start of the hardlining tightening up,it was 5 years post 1975 fallout and the culling from that fiasco had subsided

It was a 9/1/80 letter to all CO's and DO's...it said:
"Keep in mind that to be disfellowshipped, an apostate does not ahve to be a promoter of apostate views. As mentioned in paragraph two, page 17 of the August 1, 1980, Watchtower, "The word 'apostasy' comes from a Greek term that means 'a standing away from,' 'a falling away, defection,' 'rebellion, abandonment. Therefore, if a baptized Christian abandons the teachings of Jehovah, as presented by the faithful and discreet slave, and persists in believing other doctrine despite Scriptural reproof, then he is apostatizing. Extended kindly efforts should be put forth to readjust his thinking. However, if after such extended efforts have been put forth to readjust his thinking, he continues to believe his apostate ideas and rejects what he has been provided through the slave class, then appropriate judicial action should be taken.

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The Sandusky Scandal's Possible Impact on the WTS

by Quendi in

i hope the powers-that-be in brooklyn are paying close attention to what is happening in state college, pennsylvania with respect to the hideous pedophile scandal at penn state university because it speaks directly to their own handling of pedophilia.

here is a news release about the matter:.

state college, pa. (ap) -- penn state's investigation into the jerry sandusky scandal concludes that the administrators who fielded a 2001 complaint about him created a dangerous situation for future victims by not reporting the matter.. the freeh group's report issued thursday said that in order to avoid bad publicity, president graham spanier, football coach joe paterno, athletic director tim curley and vice president gary schultz ''repeatedly concealed critical facts.''.

Refriedtruth

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The Sandusky Scandal's Possible Impact on the WTS

by Quendi in

i hope the powers-that-be in brooklyn are paying close attention to what is happening in state college, pennsylvania with respect to the hideous pedophile scandal at penn state university because it speaks directly to their own handling of pedophilia.

here is a news release about the matter:.

state college, pa. (ap) -- penn state's investigation into the jerry sandusky scandal concludes that the administrators who fielded a 2001 complaint about him created a dangerous situation for future victims by not reporting the matter.. the freeh group's report issued thursday said that in order to avoid bad publicity, president graham spanier, football coach joe paterno, athletic director tim curley and vice president gary schultz ''repeatedly concealed critical facts.''.

Refriedtruth

Penn State scandal: Where things stand – This Just In - CNN.com ...

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/31/penn-state-scandal-where-things-stand/ CLICK HERE 12 hours ago – The Penn Statefootball team on Saturday will start its first season since former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky was found guilty of ...

Lawsuits

Penn State already has been named in several civil lawsuits, and more are possible. The latest lawsuit, filed in August by a man authorities called "Victim 1," accuses the school of concealing the abuse. The first suit, filed against the school, Sandusky and the charity that Sandusky founded for disadvantaged youths, The Second Mile, was filed in November.

Penn State's primary general liability insurer, the Pennsylvania Manufacturer's Association Insurance Co., has been fighting the school in court, saying it shouldn't have to cover claims relating to the scandal. The company alleges the school did not provide it with timely information about Sandusky's behavior relevant to the insurable risk the association assumed.

The university has said it believes it has sufficient resources and insurance coverage to address "the financial obligations which may arise from known and expected litigation and claims as well as other costs associated with recent events.” The school’s president has said that no tuition, state or philanthropic money will be used to pay costs relating to the Sandusky matter, including legal defense or public relations efforts.

Department of Education investigation

The U.S. Department of Education is investigating Penn State's compliance with the Clery Act, a federal law that requires universities to report crimes on or near campus and provide timely warnings if reported crimes threaten the campus community.

The law carries fines of up to $27,500 per violation. Schools that fail to comply with the Clery Act also can be suspended from the federal financial aid program, according to the Department of Education

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I wonder... Who are the top apostates the Watchtower HATES the most?

by Greybeard in

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friends

no doubt ray franz is at the top.... paul grundy's web site jwfacts.com helped me the most!

thanks paul!!!.

randall watters from freeminds.org has got to be way up there.... who else?

Refriedtruth

The contributor here know as cedars is awesome and gets my vote

Typical well done masterpiece

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/235038/1/No-Other-Magazine-Comes-Close-Watchtowers-new-slogan