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  May 15 2013 WT: "REAL elders skip meals and lose sleep!"

  by cedars in

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  finally we have the society's expectations of elders in print.. this is from page 9 of the may 15th study edition.... "as indicated by the experiences of the apostle paul, our ministry may result in sleepless nights and times without food.

  (2 cor.

  6:5) these expressions paint a vivid picture of self-sacrifice and may well remind us of pioneers who give their ministry first place in life while supporting themselves financially.

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  I see your point, but I don't know...

  It was nice when my wife was rushed to the hospital in the middle of the night, the entire elder body and their wives came up with our family to check on us. It was really nice and something I was appreciative at the time. That was when I was fully "in" and really thought they were shepherds for Christ. We tried not to impose on them or keep them up there too long. But it made a dire situation seem much better somehow.

  I remember one time when I was younger, an elder who I confided in told me that I can call him whenever I needed, even if it was in the middle of the night. He said if I was afraid to call him or "bug" him, then he wasn't doing his job. He also said that if there was ever a day when he's "too busy" for me or anyone in the congregation, then he doesn't qualify to be an elder anymore.

  It really adjusted my perspective some.

  But on the flip side of that, I've known and seen many examples of ones who constantly and relentlessly call the elders, bugging them for the most asenine and trivial matters. They treat the elders like door mats and act as if the elders should cater to their every whim in order to "shepherd" them. That I can understand. That is NOT okay. No wonder half of the elders are worn out!
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  Whacky comments! What the craziest comment you've ever heard?

  by toweragent in

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  last week a sister in my new hall made the following comment,.

  "a brother once told me that it is better to be wrong with the organization, than to be right and be on your own without the organization.".

  wow.

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  These are interesting comments!

  I was thinking of some more I've heard.

  One sister said she didn't like the Kingdom Songs, so she made up her own songs to Sing to Jehovah! That is something I would never want to hear from her!

  Another sister always bragged about having all the songs in the brown song book committed to memory.

  A speaker from the stage was talking about the miracle of life and he said. "When a person is born, who knows what he will become? Maybe the greatest mind of our time is being born at that moment. Or perhaps the greatest PENIS, there has ever been, was born." We looked at each other like, say what?! We asked him afterwars and it turns out he was saying PIANIST but pronounced it PENIS with a "T" at the end. We were all sure we had heard him say penis.

  I have also heard CO's say that if we don't go out in feild service, then the angels are out of work. We need to put them to work!
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  Governing Body Memes

  by jw07 in

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  are there any sites with collections of governing body memes?

  i see memes as a very effective way of getting the truth about the truth across without lengthy debate.

  an effective meme is point and shoot since comedy holds the attention, jolts logic, is memorable, and is more likely to be viral.. something like this: http://t.qkme.me/3674l2.jpg.

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  "One does not simply question the faithful slave." sd-7

  That one made me laugh for like 20 minutes straight! Good stuff.
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  Whacky comments! What the craziest comment you've ever heard?

  by toweragent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last week a sister in my new hall made the following comment,.

  "a brother once told me that it is better to be wrong with the organization, than to be right and be on your own without the organization.".

  wow.

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  Last week a sister in my new hall made the following comment,

  "A brother once told me that it is better to be wrong WITH the organization, than to be right and be on your own WITHOUT the organization."

  I don't think I hid my facial expression well enough because my wife imeddiately elbowed me! I was curious what kind of reaction it would get, so I just kinda looked around at the audience to see if anybody noticed the rediculousness of her statement. But unfortunately, everyone was just nodding along like it didn't even phase them...wow. And then the conductor said, "How true that is!" And we moved on...

  Floored!

  Whats the wierdest, whackiest, or funniest comment you've ever heard? Or did you make one yourself?
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  Is this a new low?

  by Darth Eowyn in

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  just had a couple of jws stop by my house.

  they had been before several times and know that i'm a pretty devout catholic, so i'm sure they were just swinging by to get more time for the card.. well, this time the opening line was about the tragedy in ct. i mean, really?

  you're going to try to get converts by capitalizing on this tragedy?

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  As far as the last days are concerned...who knows...who cares?

  All that matters is if you have the love of family and friends; and if you're a beleiver, the love of God.

  Those victims lives have changed forever. They will never be the same. They deserve love and encouragement to cope with their losses. But no one deserves "last days" doctrine to be thrown at them for "reasons" why it happened...Or reasons to join a church organisation. I agree whole heartedly.

  I didn't want to seem like I was in favor of witnesses doing that. Absolutely not.
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  Is this a new low?

  by Darth Eowyn in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just had a couple of jws stop by my house.

  they had been before several times and know that i'm a pretty devout catholic, so i'm sure they were just swinging by to get more time for the card.. well, this time the opening line was about the tragedy in ct. i mean, really?

  you're going to try to get converts by capitalizing on this tragedy?

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  That's interesting...because I've never considered those things as a "low" per se. I admit, I'm in a crossroads with the Watchtower and even I don't beleive most of their mumbo jumbo anymore. As I've said before, I've mentally checked out of the organisation and I want out.

  However, my wife and I were out in field service with the circuit overseer last week when it happened. It shocked us down to our nerves. I'm already a pretty emotional guy...and my wife is super sweet (despite being hardcore), but we didn't use it in service.

  That night I came home from the pioneer meeting and saw my wife crying and sobbing hysterically in the living room. I thought something was wrong so I ran to her, kneeled down and hugged her asking what in the world was wrong. She was so broken up she couldn't even speak...it was then that I realized she was watching a news prgram on the tragety. I shut off the TV and held her. She was crying asking, "What are they going to do? They don't have their kids anymore! The other kids are going to be scarred for life!"

  It took a while to calm her down, but once she did, I was able to read her scriptures on God's love...(not WT theology). Then she shaped up and seemed better.

  It may be that SOME witnesses CAPITALIZE on trageties without regret because they are trying to get numbers up. But I sincerely beleive some witnesses want to talk about those trageties because they really do bother them deeply...and they genuinly want to share hope with others. I think that's been the goal of most religions; to encourage, help, and give hope. However, the Tower does do it pretty backwards.

  I guess, the main point of my post is; don't immediately write off people who talk about trageties as cold hearted individuals looking to get theire numbers up. Because, I know if my wife were talking to you about something like that, it would be from her heart. She doesn't want to see other people hurting, and she would try to give them comfort the only way she knows how.
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  Minimus' Post Gave Me Courage To Finally Post My Questions, New Here

  by toweragent in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been "lurking" for about four years now.. it was an incredibly weird experience just to look at a site like jwn or freeminds.

  he came off very loving.. so, i decided that i would talk to one of my elders about the things i read.

  if any of you have time to read this, thank you.

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  unstoppableravens, I sent you a PM
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  WHAT ARE YOUR MOST VIVID, ODD, or FUNNY Memories of Conventions and Assemblies of Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by Balaamsass in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  share with us memories of the bizarre, funny, strange, what you hated, what you miss...we all have them.

  (question..why the big to do between terms- convention and assembly .

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  BTTT These are some nice stories!
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  JW - Miami Bus Crash - Update Miami Herald - Wed 5 Dec. 2012

  by RubaDub in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  already late for work, but there is a leading article in todays miami herald (wed 5 dec 2012, english version) about the bus crash on saturday that killed 2 brothers and injurred about 25 others on their way to the west palm beach assembly.. much of the article focusses on the comments by one of the airport police who first arrived on the scene.

  basically the two who died were side-by-side on the second row, crushed by the roof of the bus.

  three others are still in critical condition.. sorry i have to run but someone can detail this later.. rub a dub.

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  Definetely sad news. I feel for everyone involved. However, the jw.org website states that the driver was not a witness.
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  Conversation i had with a witness girl on Facebook recently

  by MsGrowingGirl20 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i posted a really nice song....here's the link to it.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn2uydzuoqu.

  five minutes after this happened.. .

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  Ironic that they will sing songs praising "the slave" but not Jesus...

  Ding hit it on the head.

  Kingdom Song 116 has always bothered me. I tend to mumble and hum over those "trustworthy slave" lyrics...