+10 for the Shawshank quote & image
This guy deserves a literal hellfire but I suppose a few decades (if he lasts) of TX state pen "hospitality" will have to suffice.
SweetBabyCheezits
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Polygamist child-rapist headed to prison in TX....
by SweetBabyCheezits in.
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/polygamist-leader-arrives-at-1089456.html.
... where, in a twist of fate, he will become the "wife" of another polygamist, known only by the name j.b. juggernaut.. enjoy your stay, mr. jeffs!.
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first contradiction in the bible?
by cptkirk incontradiction without the use of an outside medium (such as archaeology, fossil study).
i just stumbled on this after reading the thread about adam and the sexual subliminal message.
i was thinking about adam and eve and chronology, and a contradiction popped up in my head...so i picked up the bible and there it is.. gen 1:27 - god creates adam and eve, tells them to be fruitful.. gen 2:18 - now adam is alone?
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Paul: Will that answer your question? maybe, it helped me to CONFRIM my Answer.
Just based on the way you've worded this, might I suggest confirmation bias? Everyone is susceptible, including me and you.
I found truth and love in the bible, something that reconciles the other ways God has revealed himself to Us (The universe, the words of inspired men, His living Word Christ, our innate understanding of right and wrong- what we ought to do).
How much cultural mythology is needed within a book for it to be considered unreliable in matters of "truth"? How many acts of injustice, such as genocide, misogyny, and angry vengeance must be found in a book (and attributed to the writer's god) before it crosses the line from loving to atrocious? For either of these, would there be a scale-tipping percentage? Do we assign more weight to the good than the bad, the true than the false? Do we remember the hits and forget the misses?
I did NOT find that in the Koran or Book of Mormons OR the WTBTS for that matter.
I'd venture to say that's because you didn't start reading the Koran with the presupposition that it was a miracle of Allah? And it's highly likely you wouldn't find any value in the Bible if you were raised in Afghanistan.
Here's one Muslim's view:
Some critics say that the Koran mentions the concept of love only twice. In fact, the Book mentions the concept of love about a hundred times, if such statistics are really the essence of the message.
After declaring God's universality, the Koran describes God as "most Merciful, most Compassionate" (1:3). In fact, every single Surah except one begins with this declaration about the divine nature.
God is also known in the Scripture as "Full of Loving-Kindness" (11:90; 85:14). It is with the attribute of divine Love that the Koran most often seeks to directly create a relationship with humanity by encouraging those actions that bring God's love and discouraging those actions that extinguish God's love.
Without doubt, the Koran also mentions God's wrath for those who reject faith after clear signs have come to them, and upon those who are bent on spreading evil and corruption on earth. But, as Prophet Muhammad said while quoting God himself, "My Mercy prevails over My wrath."
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first contradiction in the bible?
by cptkirk incontradiction without the use of an outside medium (such as archaeology, fossil study).
i just stumbled on this after reading the thread about adam and the sexual subliminal message.
i was thinking about adam and eve and chronology, and a contradiction popped up in my head...so i picked up the bible and there it is.. gen 1:27 - god creates adam and eve, tells them to be fruitful.. gen 2:18 - now adam is alone?
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SweetBabyCheezits
Paul: Have you read the book of Mormon and/or the Koran?
Only parts of each. For example, in the Koran I've read some comforting thoughts as well as heinous commands, similar to the Bible.
The bible ( OT and NT) is a progressive revelatory work, cumluating in the LIVING WORD of God, Christ ( for christians anyway), which means that are are suppose to see a "progressive" revelation of God's plan, cumulating in Christ, which for a Christian is what we see.
Hang on, Paul. Based on the order of your answer, this card is a clear "begging the question" kind of presupposition. It cannot logically be played until after a person has faith as a Christian. Until then, it's just a book that deserves equal scrutiny as any other book that makes claims to divine authorship. My question is WHY would we give credence to the Bible in the first place, before we develop that faith...
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Nebuchadnezzar's dream image - no room for China?
by SweetBabyCheezits ina guy who used to be a jw buddy recently gave me hope that he's waking up to the wt fallacy.
he's concerned about the fact that china is becoming the next superpower, which creates issues for the statue in daniel ch.
2.. based on current jw light, there's no room for a single dominant world power after the "politically fragmented" landscape appears (the feet of mixed clay/iron).
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Dearest Lars:
Sincerely,
SweetBabyCheezits
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first contradiction in the bible?
by cptkirk incontradiction without the use of an outside medium (such as archaeology, fossil study).
i just stumbled on this after reading the thread about adam and the sexual subliminal message.
i was thinking about adam and eve and chronology, and a contradiction popped up in my head...so i picked up the bible and there it is.. gen 1:27 - god creates adam and eve, tells them to be fruitful.. gen 2:18 - now adam is alone?
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SBC: It makes even more sense that a divine being had NOTHING to do with those writings...
Psac: Preaching to the converted on that one bro.
So if no divine authority had anything to do with the writing of the canonical books, why give any credence to them over the Book of Mormon or the Koran?
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On becoming atheist - the tug of war
by Nickolas inperhaps, if you are a theist, you might not want to read this.
if you are nevertheless curious about how an atheist thinks, then please read on.. i don't think there are any active members of this board who have been atheists all their lives (are there?).
i think virtually all of us transitioned into non-belief from a religious beginning.
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SweetBabyCheezits
Hands down the best videos I've seen comparing secular and religious morals:
(Yes, I realize I'm obsessed with these videos. I'm going through a 10 step program. Gimme a break.)
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"Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over."
by Mr. Falcon in(numbers 5:23-28) 23 and the priest must write these cursings in the book and must wipe them out into the bitter water.
24 and he must make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and the water that brings a curse must enter into her as something bitter.
25 and the priest must take the grain offering of jealousy from the womans hand and wave the grain offering to and fro before jehovah, and he must bring it near the altar.
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SweetBabyCheezits
Psac: And as we all can attest, a radical change in the way we do things is FAR LESS accepted than a gradual change.
But if god permits or commands immoral things in his "gradually changing laws" to make it easier on his people to follow, what does that say about god?
"Okay, guys, look I know you can't control yourselves when pillaging the villages so, fine, go ahead kill off all the males and take the female virgins and bring them back as spoils of war and have your way with them. Just know that's not gonna fly later on."
What if you lived back then and happened to be born in the wrong village and god's "Chosen Nation" set upon you? What if it was your wife or daughter who was taken after you were killed? How would it feel to know that god permitted this to "wean" his special people from their barbaric actions?
'Non-theists may note that both kindnesses and atrocities described in the Bible but a decent person is always concerned about the atrocities. It is not those who point out the cruel injustices who are cherry-picking but those who ignore or excuse the immoral things that were permitted or commanded in the Bible.' (borrowed from QualiaSoup @ YouTube)
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"Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over."
by Mr. Falcon in(numbers 5:23-28) 23 and the priest must write these cursings in the book and must wipe them out into the bitter water.
24 and he must make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and the water that brings a curse must enter into her as something bitter.
25 and the priest must take the grain offering of jealousy from the womans hand and wave the grain offering to and fro before jehovah, and he must bring it near the altar.
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SweetBabyCheezits
LOL @ Beks - nothing like a little Monty Python to shed light on a subject! We were volleying Holy Grail quotes on FB earlier this week. Good times. *sigh*
illuminator: Also works for witches.
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first contradiction in the bible?
by cptkirk incontradiction without the use of an outside medium (such as archaeology, fossil study).
i just stumbled on this after reading the thread about adam and the sexual subliminal message.
i was thinking about adam and eve and chronology, and a contradiction popped up in my head...so i picked up the bible and there it is.. gen 1:27 - god creates adam and eve, tells them to be fruitful.. gen 2:18 - now adam is alone?
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Paul: We are made in God's image, WE act like God, not the other way around.
I beg to differ: I've never intentionally burned my children with fire, drowned them, caused them to have boils, sent wild animals to attack them, etc.... nor have I demanded their love - I earn it (I hope).
It makes sense that the tellers/writers would write/tell in a way that the readers/listeners could relate.
It makes even more sense that a divine being had nothing to do with those writings, which would explain the misogyny, genocide, rape, etc... - things in which the readers/listeners back then could relate because of living in a less-civilized era.
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first contradiction in the bible?
by cptkirk incontradiction without the use of an outside medium (such as archaeology, fossil study).
i just stumbled on this after reading the thread about adam and the sexual subliminal message.
i was thinking about adam and eve and chronology, and a contradiction popped up in my head...so i picked up the bible and there it is.. gen 1:27 - god creates adam and eve, tells them to be fruitful.. gen 2:18 - now adam is alone?
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