Posts by SweetBabyCheezits

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How did life started - the scientific answer!

by dark angle in

just wanna share this astonishing presentation.

enjoy.

SweetBabyCheezits

knowsnothing: But, abiogenesis and evolution are inextricably linked. If we go back in time and see the progress of evolution backwards, we are arguing that life came about from non-life processes.

Evolution and abiogenesis are one in the same...

.. accepting evolution naturally should require accepting abiogenesis.

False. The corollary may be true but what you state above is not absolutely necessary.

For the record, some deists, among others, may defend evolution as the most reasonable explanation for speciation while still entertaining the idea that some intelligence may have initiated life. (The nature of that "intelligence" as well as whether that "life" is thought to be single-celled organisms or a more complex form... all depends on the individual's beliefs.)

I'm not arguing whether the deist belief is right or wrong, only that a person may hold that life was kicked off by some intelligence and also accept evolution as the vehicle for speciation. Just because a person rejects the concept of the Judeo-Christian god or the Genesis account of creation, it doesn't mean he must acccept abiogenesis. Evolution should stand on its own regardless of arguments for or against abiogenesis.

Personally, I don't have enough knowledge regarding abiogenesis to form a proper opinion so I'm reserving judgment until I have a better grasp. But I do hate to see the theory of evolution misrepresented to include abiogenesis by default.

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Text message from a bro at the hall I got this morning as I woke

by shakyground in

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friends

we miss you, hope to see you soon.

your dad will be wondering where you are at the resurrection.

love, bro.

SweetBabyCheezits

"F*ck you too."

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Einstein on God

by whereami in

this video discusses prof. albert einstein's spiritual beliefs, and how they have been a subject for debate in recent years.. .

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kek6wthxnfw&sns=em.

SweetBabyCheezits

The narration is a passage from The God Delusion audio book, featuring little Ricky Dawkins himself.

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Jesus loves American Football

by designs in

what is your take on players in all sports who feel the need to connect their athleticism with god's will.

tebow of the denver broncos is the latest in a long line of players who either thank jesus or point a finger to heaven when they score a touchdown or slam some guys head into a concussion.. oddly you don't see bowlers doing the same praise jesus dance for knocking over some pins, i guess its not that exciting to jesus .

SweetBabyCheezits

TEC: I don't know why anyone would get all annoyed or offended by it, unless they want to be offended. (or perhaps unless they were the ones who failed to stop the touchdown, lol)

From the Christian perspective, do you think Jesus just wanted to be annoyed or offended and that's why he counseled against showy displays of public prayer?

BTS:"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full." http://bible.cc/matthew/6-5.htm

TEC: In either case, it doesn't sound like its Tebow you have a problem with... just God, if God answers that prayer and not others that involve people being hurt.

My problem isn't with god, it isn't even with those who invented the different gods, since I could expect that from primitive man.

"In dark ages people are best guided by religion, as in a pitch-black night a blind man is the best guide; he knows the roads and paths better than a man who can see. When daylight comes, however, it is foolish to use blind old men as guides."
- Heinrich Heine (Quoted in God is not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything - Christopher Hitchens)

"I believe religion, generally speaking, has been a curse to mankind — that its modest and greatly overestimated services on the ethical side have been more than overcome by the damage it has done to clear and honest thinking." HL Mencken

Swap "religion" for "uncritical belief in a detailed description of an 'ineffable' being." Tebow is just a bold manifestation of a... notion that robs me of peace.

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Christians: Morality question regarding judge who beat daughter

by SweetBabyCheezits in

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this is old news, yes, but it raised a few questions in my mind and i'd like to ask some christians to share their perspectives.

first the video.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl9y3sipt7o.

my questions: .

SweetBabyCheezits

Easy there, Shelby. The "directives given by the "OT God" is not where I'm headed and, to be frank, I wasn't planning on probing your opinion anymore. But I do appreciate your contribution.

Second (and this is sort of in jest, but a valid point, IMHO), my understanding is that the position of many non-christians is that starting out with one agenda while having another as one's goal is "intellectually dishonest" and so taboo on this forum.

Wow, where to start? First item on my "agenda" was to collect information, views, perspectives. I didn't realize I needed to submit an outline. I feel like I'm on the Theocratic Ministry School again.

Regardless, if you'd like collect your intellectual virtues and bow out of this thread with dignity (so as not to risk getting them dirty), I completely understand. Peace to you!

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Christians: Morality question regarding judge who beat daughter

by SweetBabyCheezits in

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friends

this is old news, yes, but it raised a few questions in my mind and i'd like to ask some christians to share their perspectives.

first the video.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl9y3sipt7o.

my questions: .

SweetBabyCheezits

cofty: I cannot begin to describe how much I want to punch is fucking face - the sadistic bastard.

Offhand, that would seem to be appropriate, IMO, too. Thanks for your ever passionate response, Cofty. BTW, I hope your treatment is going well.

Yes the bible is absolutely responsible for this abuse

For the record, I'm not saying I agree or disagree - I am, though, hoping to take this topic in a different direction. Please bear with me.

GaryNeal: Hell is a place that people like him deserve to go to.

I appreciate your reply Gary. Just to clarify, do you mean a literal, eternal hellfire? Also, can you imagine any act this child might commit that would warrant such a beating from her father?

Still taking opinions if there are any takers in the Christian community. The overwhelming consensus thus far - unsurprisingly - is that this father's actions against his daughter are undeniably wrong. At least one poster wishes to punch the girl's father in the face and another suggested hell.

What say you? (And I assure you there is a point... I will get there eventually but I hoped to get a broad range of perspectives among Christians.)

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Christians: Morality question regarding judge who beat daughter

by SweetBabyCheezits in

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friends

this is old news, yes, but it raised a few questions in my mind and i'd like to ask some christians to share their perspectives.

first the video.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl9y3sipt7o.

my questions: .

SweetBabyCheezits

Doing great, Shelby, and thank you for asking! I hope life is treating you right, too. Your input is much appreciated and I'll explain more soon.

George, of course your opinion matters, my good fellow! Many thanks for the reply. I think both of you made some excellent points here.

Thank you as well, I quit! And I agree - this guy is a sadistic bully and it appears he was getting something out of it in some sick way. Are you a Christian, if I may ask?

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Christians: Morality question regarding judge who beat daughter

by SweetBabyCheezits in

jw
friends

this is old news, yes, but it raised a few questions in my mind and i'd like to ask some christians to share their perspectives.

first the video.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl9y3sipt7o.

my questions: .

SweetBabyCheezits

Bueller?

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Christians: Morality question regarding judge who beat daughter

by SweetBabyCheezits in

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friends

this is old news, yes, but it raised a few questions in my mind and i'd like to ask some christians to share their perspectives.

first the video.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl9y3sipt7o.

my questions: .

SweetBabyCheezits

This is old news, yes, but it raised a few questions in my mind and I'd like to ask some Christians to share their perspectives. First the video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl9y3SIPt7o

My questions:

Would you consider her father's actions immoral?
If not immoral, would you say his actions were unjust?
If not unjust or immoral, how about unloving?

Please include any principles you feel would support your answer. (ie, a loving parent wouldn't cause intentional physical pain to his or her child, the punishment must fit the crime, corporal punishment is barbaric and cruel, etc...)

Bonus: From your perspective, how should god should deal with a parent who is physically abusive to a child?

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Jesus loves American Football

by designs in

what is your take on players in all sports who feel the need to connect their athleticism with god's will.

tebow of the denver broncos is the latest in a long line of players who either thank jesus or point a finger to heaven when they score a touchdown or slam some guys head into a concussion.. oddly you don't see bowlers doing the same praise jesus dance for knocking over some pins, i guess its not that exciting to jesus .

SweetBabyCheezits

I think it shows some humilitiy that someone would thank God for help or strength or focus (or whatever they're thanking Him for), instead of taking all the credit for themselves.

Now whether it is true or not, is none of my business. They aren't hurting anyone by thanking God for something.

So as a Christian, you're saying you feel emotional indifference (or even a little admiration) that one of your fellows believes god is intervening to grant him a little favor on game day and makes a display of it? Meanwhile, this same omniscient being (god, not Tebow) must've sat quietly and watched while an innocent child was abducted at the age of 11, held captive and raped over the next 18 years? Undoubtedly, many were praying for this child. Regardless, Tebow makes a weekly spectacle out of how certain he is that god is personally assisting him on the field.... and that's admirable?