Members of the Christian congregation thus experience a tranquillity unknown to others.
Unknown to others.... how modest of them! Did they take a survey?
text for wednesday, february 29, 2012. .
you people will again certainly see the distinction between a righteous one and a wicked one, between one serving god and one who has not served him.mal.
what a contrast in outlook there is between those who are part of the christian congregation and those who are not!
Members of the Christian congregation thus experience a tranquillity unknown to others.
Unknown to others.... how modest of them! Did they take a survey?
our daughter's school is having a blood drive today and me and mrs. babycheezits thought about signing up.
it's been on my bucket list i just haven't done it yet.. .
just curious if many members of jwn have donated?.
Our daughter's school is having a blood drive today and me and Mrs. BabyCheezits thought about signing up. It's been on my bucket list I just haven't done it yet.
Just curious if many members of JWN have donated?
TEC: Men can justify any action and deem that it comes from love.
Wouldn't that suggest, then, that love and faith are unreliable paths for someone who wishes to understand reality?
SBC: I could very well say that I have to reject the entire Bible since it conflicts with love all over the place.
TEC: You do reject the bible, lol.
Of course, but that's only a small part of the reason. :-) I'm trying to assess things using your standard of scrutiny here, namely love.
TEC: I reject the parts (or the understanding of those parts) that conflict with Christ and/or love.
So why not give Jehovah's Witnesses the same benefit? Or Mormons? Or Islam and the Quran? Just reject the parts that conflict with love.
TEC: Look to Christ, rather than men, to understand love. Men can justify any action and deem that it comes from love.
...hence the books that make up the Bible, including the gospel. The circle never ends.
When that view conflicts with love.
So we use a largely relative emotion to determine truth?
How can he sense that his views conflict with love when he believes shunning to be an expression of love to help me return to his god?
I could very well say that I have to reject the entire Bible since it conflicts with love all over the place.
What is sad is that he tries to do good (as you said) for pure reasons, but that people have
taught him falsely what God wants of him.
What difference does it make if a belief is "false" if faith and love are the most important things?
"Faith? Check."
"Love? Check."
"Great! The rest will take care of itself."
Too bad truth takes a back seat to faith and love.
I don't know a single scripture that holds intelligence or critical thinking in high esteem; whereas uncritical acceptance of "god's word" - that's where the blessings come from, right? That's convenient. From my side, it's no wonder the patriarchs and religious leaders made faith out to be the quality their gods value more than any other. What better way to control a group?
How can you challenge the views of someone who gives priority to faith over reason and evidence?
That's why I see this religious variety of faith as a curse - at least in a more civilized time and culture - and not a blessing. Once a concept is accepted in faith, it becomes particularly difficult to disbelieve it, no matter how much logic, reason, and evidence disagree. Why do so many "good people" like my brother around the world believe so many contradicting things... so sincerely? I'd venture because most were indoctrinated with a religious kernel and then they seal over it with faith. Thereafter, evidence and logic will have a very difficult time penetrating the "large shield of faith."
One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. it is simply too painful to acknowledge -- even to ourselves -- that we've been so credulous. (So the old bamboozles tend to persist as the new bamboozles rise.) - Carl Sagan
Religion does stand between us. He's demonstrated his faith and sacrificed our relationship - a close one, I might add - for his god.
Tammy, that was nicely put. And I'm fairly certain my JW brother feels the exact same way. He is a genuine fellow, as you seem to be (genuine, not a fellow) and while I don't believe any one of us can be completely altruistic, he comes as close as anyone I've ever met. I think he follows the rules because he sincerely and desperately wants to please his "father"... He has the love of this *concept of Jehovah* and it really does seem to motivate him to do good.
Maybe all roads do lead to heaven if love and faith are all that matters? I guess that's another topic.
Phineas (not to be confused with Ferb) (if you have kids you'll understand) grabbed a lance..
Haha, I thought the same thing. I just can't picture sweet little Phineas with his Dorito-shaped head impaling some poor couple through the naughty bits.
just curious here who uses the new tablet computers, whether they be android based or ipad ios from apple.
does anyone here use a phone to post and what is your experience with that?.
i'm curious as to how much more time there will be before these devices are the main computers for people.
I don't have that app, Six, but that's awesome that your system was used in its creation! I googled it and it looks pretty sweet. I'll have to snag it and check it out.