Posts by SweetBabyCheezits

Why, according to the Bible, which I have faith (and not the blind sort) in says the following. If you want to discount it, that is fine. But it DOES say these things.

Hey, Chief, you never finished the debate on bible prophecy when you bailed on us before. Maybe you could finish that up first - I'm interested in knowing how it'll pan out. Otherwise, I can't possibly put any faith in it.

Or I can save you the trouble: you're still building on presuppositions you adopted as a 5 year old. Think with your adult mind and stop letting your inner child tell you what to believe.

31

My mom to my daughter: "BD party might be fun but it will make Jah sad"

by SweetBabyCheezits in

jw
friends

we've allow a little freedom for my jw mom to visit our daughter at lunch at the school since we're df'd now.

um, because we're idiots, maybe.

so my daughter tells me this evening that she was chatting with mom at lunch today and mentioned a birthday party she's attending this weekend.

SweetBabyCheezits

That's pretty damn funny, Leo.

31

My mom to my daughter: "BD party might be fun but it will make Jah sad"

by SweetBabyCheezits in

jw
friends

we've allow a little freedom for my jw mom to visit our daughter at lunch at the school since we're df'd now.

um, because we're idiots, maybe.

so my daughter tells me this evening that she was chatting with mom at lunch today and mentioned a birthday party she's attending this weekend.

SweetBabyCheezits

WB, JB, and MG.... Absolutely, my first action when I heard what my mom said was to remind my daughter that we don't believe the same things my mother believes. What grandma tells her is the only thing she's ever known and while Grandma is sincere that doesn't make it true. I illustrated it for her several months ago by supposing a child grew up with a box of crayons in which blue was called "red" and red was called "blue". If that child used that box of crayons their entire childhood and no parent, teacher, trusted friend, or authority figure ever told them otherwise, they simply would not know any better. Their labels for the colors would be backwards. I drew a few more parallels and she got a good enough grasp on it that she commented on it recently and explained it back to us out of the blue. I think she'll be fine with a few more reminders that no loving creator, if one exists, would be offended in any way by her attending a birthday party.

Black Sheep, teaching my children critical thinking and the principles of the scientific method are a very high priority to me. I am a firm believer that such training, early and often, would help suppress the spread of religious disease.

31

My mom to my daughter: "BD party might be fun but it will make Jah sad"

by SweetBabyCheezits in

jw
friends

we've allow a little freedom for my jw mom to visit our daughter at lunch at the school since we're df'd now.

um, because we're idiots, maybe.

so my daughter tells me this evening that she was chatting with mom at lunch today and mentioned a birthday party she's attending this weekend.

SweetBabyCheezits

I think I would speak to her (if you can) and tell her that unless she respects your wishes regarding the guilt and teachings of the WTS, that the visitation will have to be supervised. You love her, but you also love your daughter, and you have to protect her. If, when your daughter is older, she expresses an interest in understanding what grandma believes, then she can ask questions and have them answered. Until then, you won't allow her to be indoctrinated with fear or guilt.

I agree, Tammy. Unfortunately, this is the message we've been preaching to my parents for months and yet here we are. Other than school lunches, they have had zero unsupervised visits with my daughter since the Spring. I'm not sure why we even allowed the lunches. Naivete on my part, I guess. I just figured that, knowing the risks, she'd have more self control. But Mom can't help herself. She has to save her grandchildren from the wrath of their petulant Father... and I don't mean me. (See Iquit's post above. )

31

My mom to my daughter: "BD party might be fun but it will make Jah sad"

by SweetBabyCheezits in

jw
friends

we've allow a little freedom for my jw mom to visit our daughter at lunch at the school since we're df'd now.

um, because we're idiots, maybe.

so my daughter tells me this evening that she was chatting with mom at lunch today and mentioned a birthday party she's attending this weekend.

SweetBabyCheezits

Excellent point. ^

31

My mom to my daughter: "BD party might be fun but it will make Jah sad"

by SweetBabyCheezits in

jw
friends

we've allow a little freedom for my jw mom to visit our daughter at lunch at the school since we're df'd now.

um, because we're idiots, maybe.

so my daughter tells me this evening that she was chatting with mom at lunch today and mentioned a birthday party she's attending this weekend.

SweetBabyCheezits

We've allow a little freedom for my JW mom to visit our daughter at lunch at the school since we're DF'd now. Why? Um, because we're idiots, maybe. (Welll.. me, not my wife.)

So my daughter tells me this evening that she was chatting with Mom at lunch today and mentioned a birthday party she's attending this weekend. I don't really care if my parents know this. But at some point, my mom tells her that "while it might please your friends, it's making Jehovah sad." Really?? Guilt trip on an 8 year old?

Okay, well, Mom, we've made attempts to compromise so you could see the kids but now we're revoking that right. You don't have permission to make my daughter feel guilty for attending a [EDIT] birthday party. Go guilt someone else's kid, k?

[edit]

56

How many of you atheists, agnostics, deists are celebrating Xmas??

by SweetBabyCheezits in

jw
friends

we are celebrating xmas this year for the first time.

it's kinda weird because, even though we're doing a xmas tree, decorations, gifts, we're more or less taking the christ out of christmas.

so how about the rest of you non-christian heathens?.

SweetBabyCheezits

^ SweetBabyCheezits cares. All 8lbs 3oz of him.... lying in his little donkey trough.

53

Satan the Devil was in idiot

by sabastious in

lets check out his track record (according to the witnesses).. 1. first, he decides to rebel against the most powerful entity in existence that is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent.

which of course, will doom him to failure the second he begins.. 2. then he starts his brilliant plan to trick eve as a talking snake, interesting how that worked out since snakes don't talk.

(good thing eve was more stupid than satan).. 3. next he bets against god (again) with job.

SweetBabyCheezits

oops

53

Satan the Devil was in idiot

by sabastious in

lets check out his track record (according to the witnesses).. 1. first, he decides to rebel against the most powerful entity in existence that is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent.

which of course, will doom him to failure the second he begins.. 2. then he starts his brilliant plan to trick eve as a talking snake, interesting how that worked out since snakes don't talk.

(good thing eve was more stupid than satan).. 3. next he bets against god (again) with job.

SweetBabyCheezits

I don't think it is possible to have no bias or to look at anything without bias, but we shoudl be aware what our biasis are.

Identifying bias is a necessary first step but it is by no means the last.

Suppose you were wrongly charged with a homicide and during the jury selection process you discovered that several potential members were people who knew you and despised you for some unknown reason. What good would it do if the judge acknowledged their prior relationship to you but did nothing to remove them from the pool? Worse yet, what if they were selected as jurors? Simply being aware of the bias would not help the court reach a fair verdict.