Nance: How do you know I'm surviving?
Good point. Forget everything I said.
how do you explain david's graphic portrayal of jesus' death by crucifixion (psalm 22) 1000 years before christ lived?.
how do you account for the odds (1 in 10 to the 157th power) that even just 48 (of 300) old testament prophecies were fulfilled in jesus christ?.
in what sense was jesus a "good man" if he was lying in his claim to be god?.
Nance: How do you know I'm surviving?
Good point. Forget everything I said.
how do you explain david's graphic portrayal of jesus' death by crucifixion (psalm 22) 1000 years before christ lived?.
how do you account for the odds (1 in 10 to the 157th power) that even just 48 (of 300) old testament prophecies were fulfilled in jesus christ?.
in what sense was jesus a "good man" if he was lying in his claim to be god?.
N. Drew, I don't know how to put this more politely: Over the last 260 days, and at an average of 26 posts per day, you have consistently demonstrated that intellectual virtues are not necessary to survive in the real world.
Chest bump?
how do you explain david's graphic portrayal of jesus' death by crucifixion (psalm 22) 1000 years before christ lived?.
how do you account for the odds (1 in 10 to the 157th power) that even just 48 (of 300) old testament prophecies were fulfilled in jesus christ?.
in what sense was jesus a "good man" if he was lying in his claim to be god?.
QualiaSoup is an intellectual beast.
we're discussing this over on jwr:.
http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=12805.
a jdub has posted a video of a talk that stephen lett, a member of the governing body, just gave at a special assembly day in iowa.
I think Lett aspired to be like Tilton.
we're discussing this over on jwr:.
http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=12805.
a jdub has posted a video of a talk that stephen lett, a member of the governing body, just gave at a special assembly day in iowa.
Breakfast: As for SCENICVIEWER'S SweetBabyCheezitsinsight on gateway porn - yes, ABSOLUTELY.
Thank you, BoC! It's good to feel validated.
Back to Lett - I met that guy at a DC probably 5 or so years back. Something's not right with that one. Seriously. And I'm not out to bash individual GB members. Met a few old-timers from Brooklyn in the past and my assessment was that, however wrong, they seemed sincere and some even had that grandfatherly thing going (not necessarily GB). Not Lett. This guy seemed to be either an outrageously pretentious, lying douche canoe or an absolute pscyhopath with a poor facade.
Either way, my inlaws were mesmerized by his distorted talking hole and made sure to kiss every inch of his televangelist-wannabe ass after the session was over. Meanwhile, I was trying to make sure he was never less than 20' from my daughter.
we're discussing this over on jwr:.
http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=12805.
a jdub has posted a video of a talk that stephen lett, a member of the governing body, just gave at a special assembly day in iowa.
Wow, thanks ScenicViewer for the image comparison. Brings back memories.
LostGen: That woman is beautiful, I remember thinking as a kid reading the Bull$h!t story Book, "I get why the angels wanted to come down here and tap that."
LG, I had very similar thoughts. I remember being entranced by that particular image at a really young age. Who knew the Live Forever book contained fapping material? It's a veritable JW gateway to pornography.
That said, I can also remember thinking, "Man those Bible folks must notta realized it'd be a lot easier if they'd get naked to take a bath." Same goes for Bathsheba bathing on the rooftop in her nightgown. So inefficient.
this is an interesting debate paneled by people representing both pro and con aspects of religion as a ideological concept in human sociality.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfix_e1qnbm.
SBC: Religion hardly promoted science and human progress in this case.
BTS: It is an exception, and, I'd like to add, Galileo's own research was funded by the church. There is a lot of context your quote omits, such as the fact that scientific consensus at the time opposed Galileo's ideas.
Well, I appreciate you saying it's an exception at least, Burns, my friend. Bear in mind, I also omit a segments of the judgment that paint the church in a really ugly light, too.
I need to go back and see whether the scientific consensus was outright opposed to heliocentricity or divided. I've heard both but I honestly don't know.
At any rate, I remember reading an article by Dinesh D'souza that called the current view of Galileo a caricature as well, that sounded almost convincing, but after comparing it to a Catholic website's slant against Galileo's character, it just felt like apologetic propaganda like the WT would use ... especially when compared with the documented text from the Inquisition, which takes us back to the actual events.
the above mark twain quote made me think about some of the comments i heard this weekend during the watchtower study.
several commentors alluded to the seeming ignorance of "wordly" people as regards bible knowledge.
comments such as "people who go to churches don't know the bible like we do, so they may go to church and afterwards say that was a very good sermon.
This thread from way back in Mr. Falcon's MS years deserves a good bumping, if only for it's outstanding imagery. To quote the man himself (and Virginia Slims), you've come a long way, baby.
we're discussing this over on jwr:.
http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=12805.
a jdub has posted a video of a talk that stephen lett, a member of the governing body, just gave at a special assembly day in iowa.
Great catch. I suspect most "good illustrations" that JWs use probably come from non-JW sources, including but not limited to the following:
this is an interesting debate paneled by people representing both pro and con aspects of religion as a ideological concept in human sociality.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfix_e1qnbm.
BTS, I like your grit, sir, but I'ma have to go back to a thread where you and I debated the church's oppression of Galileo and pull out Finocchiaro's translation of the Inquisition's judgement against Galileo.
Among the highlights of that judgment:
"And whereas this Holy Tribunal wanted remedy the disorder and the harm which derived from it and which was growing to the detriment of the Holy Faith, by order of His Holiness and the Most Eminent and Most Reverend Lord Cardinals of this Supreme and Univesal Inquisition, the Assessor Theologians assessed the two propositions of the sun's stability and the earth's motions as follows:
That the sun is the center of the world and motionless is a proposition which is philosophically absurd and false, and formally heretical, for being explicitly contrary to Holy Scripture;
That the earth is neither the center of the world nor motionless but moves even with diurnal motion is philosophically equally absurd and false, and theologically at least erroneous in the Faith."
Religion hardly promoted science and human progress in this case.