Posts by debator

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Are they really that bad???

by anonymous4 in

had a good look into the doctrine, beliefs and practices of jws and to be honest, i don't really see anything wrong with it at all.. it's biblical and i've had such an eye opener the past year or so reading some of their books and magazines .

is there really any real reasons why i shouldn't want to get involved further?

:-).

debator

Hi jookbeard

What you talk about is a world-wide problem! If you look at the stats you cannot walk down any street, or building or organisation without someone of that type being among them such is the world we live in.

Jehovah can get rid of what our governments can only imprison or try to catch and that does not happen until after Armageddon!

If you also want to blame God for this you forget the point of freewill. Humans cannot be forced to be good they have to come to understand why they have to live by God's standards of love otherwise all you are asking is that God just manipulates us like puppets and we will never learn.

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Are they really that bad???

by anonymous4 in

had a good look into the doctrine, beliefs and practices of jws and to be honest, i don't really see anything wrong with it at all.. it's biblical and i've had such an eye opener the past year or so reading some of their books and magazines .

is there really any real reasons why i shouldn't want to get involved further?

:-).

debator

Hi bohm

Prophecy interpretation is an easy target and you know it. The Jews interpreted prophecy wrong all the time but it did not stop them being God's people. Jesus himself had to explain which prophecies he fulfilled concerning the Messiah, hundreds of them.

In fact the one basic truth about prophecies is that they never happen as imperfect humans expect them too but we are still meant to use them so we can at least be prepared "keep on the watch" even though we know we will not know 100% until after fulfilment.

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Are they really that bad???

by anonymous4 in

had a good look into the doctrine, beliefs and practices of jws and to be honest, i don't really see anything wrong with it at all.. it's biblical and i've had such an eye opener the past year or so reading some of their books and magazines .

is there really any real reasons why i shouldn't want to get involved further?

:-).

debator

Hi anonymous4

I hope it goes well for you, may Jehovah bless your efforts!

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Are they really that bad???

by anonymous4 in

had a good look into the doctrine, beliefs and practices of jws and to be honest, i don't really see anything wrong with it at all.. it's biblical and i've had such an eye opener the past year or so reading some of their books and magazines .

is there really any real reasons why i shouldn't want to get involved further?

:-).

debator

Hi Ding

Your argument is invalid the Bible clearly shows that we need to preach, teach and explain the Bible not just hand out copies and say "there you go" The principle of this point is with Jesus who also had to explain the scriptures refering back to scripture and every prophet and apostles that did the same.

This is not a sin but actually following the Bible examples.

Jesus often jumped back to hebrew scriptures to confirm his teachings. And then we have the apostles. Do you know how many times the hebrew scriptures are referenced in the greek scriptures?

I will let you research that one. With their hopscotching back to the hebrew scriptures the greek scriptures would lose validity by your words.

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Are they really that bad???

by anonymous4 in

had a good look into the doctrine, beliefs and practices of jws and to be honest, i don't really see anything wrong with it at all.. it's biblical and i've had such an eye opener the past year or so reading some of their books and magazines .

is there really any real reasons why i shouldn't want to get involved further?

:-).

debator

Hi neon Bible

It is silly to expect Perfection from Imperfection. The Bible doesn't say God's people will be faultless only that they will be easily recognisable as his people by what they believe, teach and do.

Again you put the false teaching of "imperfection of men" on the table to stumble yourself and others.

We are Jehovah's witnesses because our God is Jehovah and we do his will!

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Are they really that bad???

by anonymous4 in

had a good look into the doctrine, beliefs and practices of jws and to be honest, i don't really see anything wrong with it at all.. it's biblical and i've had such an eye opener the past year or so reading some of their books and magazines .

is there really any real reasons why i shouldn't want to get involved further?

:-).

debator

Hi black sheep

Trinity brochure huh? since it is discussing a teaching that is not found in the bible by name or even concept. I would say there is very little Bible they could bring up on it accept the scriptures that show Jehovah is our one true God and father.

They are left showing how the false teaching of trinity grew from greek philosophy and Jesus worship. To the point where they even needed to add false words to scripture aka 1 john 5:7 to support it in later centuries as people began to read the Bible for themselves.

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Are they really that bad???

by anonymous4 in

had a good look into the doctrine, beliefs and practices of jws and to be honest, i don't really see anything wrong with it at all.. it's biblical and i've had such an eye opener the past year or so reading some of their books and magazines .

is there really any real reasons why i shouldn't want to get involved further?

:-).

debator

Hi mouthy

With respect try quoting from the whole of deut 18 to get the context fully!

Since this is the bible blueprint chapter for knowing if someone is inspired of God or not and a direct prophecy regarding the coming messiah who would himself be inspired.

Witnesses have never claimed inspiration! We have only ever interpreted Already written Bible prophecy and Chronology and this is not a sin even if you get it wrong!

Do not be fooled by not reading or knowing the full context of a scripture Mouthy.

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Are they really that bad???

by anonymous4 in

had a good look into the doctrine, beliefs and practices of jws and to be honest, i don't really see anything wrong with it at all.. it's biblical and i've had such an eye opener the past year or so reading some of their books and magazines .

is there really any real reasons why i shouldn't want to get involved further?

:-).

debator

Hi cantleave

If you read the Bible you would know basic everyday administration is our responsibility as a flock and that is what elders roles encompass.

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Are they really that bad???

by anonymous4 in

had a good look into the doctrine, beliefs and practices of jws and to be honest, i don't really see anything wrong with it at all.. it's biblical and i've had such an eye opener the past year or so reading some of their books and magazines .

is there really any real reasons why i shouldn't want to get involved further?

:-).

debator

Hi Hoffnung

You agree with me then just say a false statement?

Anyone knows who has been to our meetings that anything mentioned has to be referenced back to the Bible God's word. These publications do not go from what God himself has written in the Bible either by absolute or bible principle..

When I check what Jehovah's witnesses believe and teach by both word and the literature it is all in line with Bible teachings. The Bereans checked what Paul taught to them against the hebrew scriptures. This is not a sin!

Spacious generalisation that makes a sin out of what isn't a sin, is a very weak argument. Be specific and I know you know there are scripture and verse from the Bible to support it.

If we apply the Berean standard against all claimed Christian faiths. Jehovah's witness teachings in regards to the Bible measure far beyond the others that cannot even get God right!

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A FOUR LETTER WORD FOR DEBATOR

by wasblind in

debator said: " coc is not the holy grail.

it is just an imperfection of men fallacy argument!

i'm surprised it still works on people.

debator

Hi thetrueone

Commercial success equals gathering donations for the faith? Your pronouncement condemns Jesus and his apostles as well you know. Would you have ripped the expensive oil out of the hands before it reached Jesus's head?