Posts by debator

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Children of 1975

by d in

what was it like to live in the 1950's 1960's and early 70's as a jehovah witness.when they started to push the 1975 date..

!975 was a phenomenon that swept through all of the witnesses because they hoped it would happen when 6000 years of man's existence was marked since Adam. but hope isn't doctrine and the bible doesn't condemn for hope.

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At what point did you realize JW's were a Cult?

by Think About It in

most of us x-jw's at one point no doubt defended the jw's when called a cult.

althought being out since 95', when i first came here it took awhile before i could use the cult word to describe the jw religion.

finding out about the pedophile scandal was disgusting, but it was probably finding out here about the wts history and terrible personal experiences of some on this board that made me finally admit that the jw's were a cult.

debator

Hi wannabe

According to most governments, human right courts and in fact supreme courts as well, witnesses are not a cult but apparently that means nothing compared to the opinion of ex-Jws on here!

Hi Nickolas

in this case the governments you vote for agree with me that Witnesses are not a cult, are they crap too in your opinion?

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Children of 1975

by d in

what was it like to live in the 1950's 1960's and early 70's as a jehovah witness.when they started to push the 1975 date..

debator

HI Ding

thank you

for posting watchtowers that confirm that though they were enthusiatic about '75 they did not teach that Armageddon would specifically happen then,

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At what point did you realize JW's were a Cult?

by Think About It in

most of us x-jw's at one point no doubt defended the jw's when called a cult.

althought being out since 95', when i first came here it took awhile before i could use the cult word to describe the jw religion.

finding out about the pedophile scandal was disgusting, but it was probably finding out here about the wts history and terrible personal experiences of some on this board that made me finally admit that the jw's were a cult.

debator

Hi nicholas

You didn't read my replies then you enforcing your own cult on yourself by the definition of it on here.

To others

What is a cult?

So a far the equation from peoples point of view on here is...

[ ] = Cult

fill in the blank from your own opinion.

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At what point did you realize JW's were a Cult?

by Think About It in

most of us x-jw's at one point no doubt defended the jw's when called a cult.

althought being out since 95', when i first came here it took awhile before i could use the cult word to describe the jw religion.

finding out about the pedophile scandal was disgusting, but it was probably finding out here about the wts history and terrible personal experiences of some on this board that made me finally admit that the jw's were a cult.

debator

Wow

You actually did it anyway

"Scientology are cult therefore witnesses are a cult"

let me introduce you to the world of fallacies.

non sequitur

The fallacy of the undistributed middle is a logical fallacy that is committed when the middle term in a categorical syllogism is not distributed. It is thus a syllogistic fallacy. More specifically it is also a form of non sequitur.

The fallacy of the undistributed middle takes the following form:

All Zs are Bs.
Y is a B.
Therefore, Y is a Z.

Do you think introducing scientology as a non sequitor helps your debate?

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At what point did you realize JW's were a Cult?

by Think About It in

most of us x-jw's at one point no doubt defended the jw's when called a cult.

althought being out since 95', when i first came here it took awhile before i could use the cult word to describe the jw religion.

finding out about the pedophile scandal was disgusting, but it was probably finding out here about the wts history and terrible personal experiences of some on this board that made me finally admit that the jw's were a cult.

debator

Hi poppers

I am not saying a Christian faith cannot be a cult but simply that scientology could be a raving monster loony party but they have absolutely nothing in common with witnesses and so there is no point in discussing whether they are a cult or not.

but personally I think with scientologists the issue is more of whether they are actually a religion more than whether they are a cult.

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At what point did you realize JW's were a Cult?

by Think About It in

most of us x-jw's at one point no doubt defended the jw's when called a cult.

althought being out since 95', when i first came here it took awhile before i could use the cult word to describe the jw religion.

finding out about the pedophile scandal was disgusting, but it was probably finding out here about the wts history and terrible personal experiences of some on this board that made me finally admit that the jw's were a cult.

debator

Hi wasblind

Is cult a word that can be applied just by the opinion of the people involved of what is a cult? If I said in my opinion the bristish legion was cult would that make my opinion count.

Is cult a word that redefined from person to person?

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At what point did you realize JW's were a Cult?

by Think About It in

most of us x-jw's at one point no doubt defended the jw's when called a cult.

althought being out since 95', when i first came here it took awhile before i could use the cult word to describe the jw religion.

finding out about the pedophile scandal was disgusting, but it was probably finding out here about the wts history and terrible personal experiences of some on this board that made me finally admit that the jw's were a cult.

debator

I've been lost in fallacy world on this debate forum.

Isaacator

Are you false prophecying by your own standard? Witnesses are a cult because you say "governments will think they are a cult at some vague future time"?

Jookbeard

Witnesses are a cult because they had a pedophile member? I know of a parent and teacher who was a pedophile does that make the Parent, Teacher association a cult?

Circular reasoning! you say they have more in common with scientology? by whose opinion? the same steve hassan book that you are cold-reading witnesses into using biased information?

Hi bohm

My definition of Cult is when it is established as a cult by the human-rights organisation. But Witnesses have been upheld as a religion by the European human rights court and it doesn't get any higher than that in the world.

It says a lot when the world itself doesn't call us a cult but those that hate us do. In this case we are indeed following Jesus's example when the jews vilified him in their hatred and even Pontious pilate knew he was innocent of the crime they were trying to convict him of.

The world knows Witnesses are innocent of this title you are trying to hang on us in your bitter hatred.

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At what point did you realize JW's were a Cult?

by Think About It in

most of us x-jw's at one point no doubt defended the jw's when called a cult.

althought being out since 95', when i first came here it took awhile before i could use the cult word to describe the jw religion.

finding out about the pedophile scandal was disgusting, but it was probably finding out here about the wts history and terrible personal experiences of some on this board that made me finally admit that the jw's were a cult.

debator

Hi bohn

Absolutely not answering that one because first again it is only indicative of my personal opinion!

Scientologists have nothing in common with witnesses.

I am well aware you are trying top build a situation where you are trying to say if B is a cult then A is a cult also but that simply doesn't fly because we are a Christian faith so please you tell me are other Christian religions like catholics and Baptists a cult?

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At what point did you realize JW's were a Cult?

by Think About It in

most of us x-jw's at one point no doubt defended the jw's when called a cult.

althought being out since 95', when i first came here it took awhile before i could use the cult word to describe the jw religion.

finding out about the pedophile scandal was disgusting, but it was probably finding out here about the wts history and terrible personal experiences of some on this board that made me finally admit that the jw's were a cult.

debator

Hi cantleave

Despite your resorting to obsene language (do you think that helps your case?) your list is still only indicative of your biased opinion and negative spin and not your own governments that thankfully are more objective.

In your case and jookbeard's hate truly is the other side of the coin of the religion you once loved.