Posts by laverite

10

Burning Bridges, Living Free

by laverite in

for all those (ex)jws who have had to burn bridges with friends and family in order to live free: .

.

Burning Bridges, Living Free

by laverite in

for all those (ex)jws who have had to burn bridges with friends and family in order to live free: .

.

laverite

For all those (ex)JWs who have had to burn bridges with friends and family in order to live free:

59

REAL-TIME CIRCUIT ASSEMBLY UPDATE "DO NOT SHOPLIFT FROM JEHOVAH!"!!!

by Sunflower Samurai in

just a quick overview of some new light that is coming our way, forgive my posting via my cellphone.

audience is given ten questions and we have receved anwsers to r questions.. .

"we are stealing from jehovah, if we are worrying about problems in our life, congregation, or employment.

laverite

The WTS is such an embarrassing train wreck of a religion.

104

Hear ye!hear ye!!!!Take notice

by mouthy in

jw
friends

tomorrow the 22nd i will be 85 years old .

good wishes only please,remember if you say something nasty i will cry.

and my mum told me it is a sin to cry on your birthday .

laverite

I bet you're going to be one of those people who live to over 115. Happy Birthday!!!!!!!!!!!!

83

My two week consulting trip to Bethel (the beginning of the end) Part 4

by seven006 in

jw
friends

the next day was going to be tough.

i had to do kind of a portfolio check session with the illustrators and work on some photo retouching for an up coming italian awake magazine and work with someone from the graphics department on the miniaturization issue.

as i walked around a little bit i noticed a large hell scanner sitting in a room with a plastic tarp over it.

laverite

I remember reading this a long time ago even before I set up an account on JWN. Loved reading it then and it's still just as good of a read now.

11

You like men? Your're a Sinner. You like little Boys? I shall ........

by What-A-Coincidence in

jw
friends

.

wac is back!.

laverite

Extremely sick and twisted.

21

Do you eat blood?

by laverite in

abstaining from blood is somewhat trickier for jws than i might have imagined.

meat glue is apparently widely in use, and it is made from the blood products from a variety of animals.

i never heard of meat glue before today.. oh my.

laverite

Thanks everyone who rang in for your replies. I guess what interests me the most is when I saw the video, I wondered about the JWs who would also see it.

I did have to LOL @ blond-moment: " It's just the clotting agent from blood....it's just a fraction, JWs will be safe." Also had to giggle At ZeusR's comment: " Well, when I cut myself I take a little swig."

I do have to say that the idea of this grosses me out. Blood pudding, too. I just couldn't. I guess I'm not that adventurous.

21

Do you eat blood?

by laverite in

abstaining from blood is somewhat trickier for jws than i might have imagined.

meat glue is apparently widely in use, and it is made from the blood products from a variety of animals.

i never heard of meat glue before today.. oh my.

laverite

Abstaining from blood is somewhat trickier for JWs than I might have imagined. Meat glue is apparently widely in use, and it is made from the blood products from a variety of animals. I never heard of meat glue before today.

Oh my.

http://news.yahoo.com/video/pittsburghwtae-28863332/is-your-prime-steak-held-together-by-meat-glue-29102062.html

322

My son was murdered today

by truman in

i have been on this site daily, almost from its beginning, since i left the jws in 2001, but i have been more of a reader than a poster, as you can see from my post count.

i know few here know me, although i know many of you through reading your posts.

maybe it is not right to ask for support, when i generally stay quietly in the background of this forum, but i want only to speak a human misery of the deepest kind.

laverite

Anne, you are in my thoughts the very first thing in the morning and throughout each day. We are getting ready for church right now but I wanted to check in to see if you had posted anything. Today, at church, I will be sharing yesterday's experiences with the congregation and light a candle for you and your family and one especially for Glendon. This is done during the public time set aside at the beginning when congregants share their joys and sorrows. I have never gone up before to share a joy or a sorrow with the congregation. Usually a small handful do this each Sunday.

The witnesses did a very fine job yesterday. I am so very glad that they did, as they honored Glendon in a way I didn't think they would be capable of doing. I am sure he would have been very touched and humbled by everything that they did for him. The witnesses impressed me yesterday. Glendon truly deserved their very best efforts.

17

Think of Truman today

by laverite in

jw
friends

in a few minutes we will be heading to glendon's memorial service.

we live around the corner from that hall.

the service is in just over an hour.

laverite

Hello everyone,

My children are in bed now. I'm still processing the day. But I'm finally emotionally ready to write a bit on the day. It was a hard day. My heart aches for Truman and her family.

Although we arrived at the hall plenty early, there were already a lot of cars there. Parking attendants were well-organized and everything went very well from the moment we got there until we left. The double hall where the memorial was held was at capacity, but they had plenty of parking for everyone. There were many community members there, including law enforcement, paramedics, etc. I saw a number of non JW people I know from the community. The non JWs that I recognized dressed much more casually than the JWs. I'm sure they didn't know what to expect exactly.

Because of how we were dressed, we blended in with the JWs. We blended in probably a bit too much. We were asked numerous times what hall we attend. I was called "brother" again and again with each interaction. With a sustained interaction (more than just an "excuse me, brother" as someone passed), I would simply state that we weren't witnesses but that we were friends of the family. I had a few items for the children (extra diaper, baby wipes, etc.) and chose a computer carrying case to put it all in that might pass for a book bag. I wanted to be as incognito as possible but this seemed to work too well.

I did run into a couple of JWs I knew back in the day and they came up to me and talked. I simply said we were friends of the family as they seemed to be wondering if we were JWs. They obviously didn't know that I disassociated myself a couple of decades back. No one seems to know or remember this. Did they not get my letter? I still wonder.

I believe that the service started a few minutes late as they were figuring out the technology involved in simultaneously broadcasting the service in more than one hall. I'm not too sure about this as my children were taking up my attention, and seated directly in front of me were a couple of friends from the community with whom I was chit chatting a off and on.

The memorial talk was very well done overall. The speaker really did a nice job, and there was much more focus on Glendon than I was expecting. I think this is because of the high profile nature of the event and the number of community members present. They still had their JW content, but the speaker kept bringing it back to Glendon. It was very nicely done. The speaker did a nice job. That said, there were a couple of times when I would have reworded a couple of things if I had the power to do that on behalf of Truman. But honestly, the speaker was a very good speaker and a good choice.

The speaker, of course, gave the closing prayer. He became very emotional during the prayer. It was a very human moment.

This whole event was extremely well done. I felt it honored Glendon's memory. They managed to transcend, to some extent, the JW social scripts that are deeply ingrained. It was much more mixed company than usual for them. They seemed able to deal with it well, even surprisingly well. After all, JWs aren't generally used to such a law enforcement presence at their events, including individuals with the word "Chaplain" on their clothing.

Truman got through the day. Her husband, son, daughter-in-law and family are just wonderful, lovely people. They all got through it. Somehow.

So again, the memorial was a very mixed group of people. It was all very well done. People were much more focused on Glendon and his memory than I ever expected. It was very moving and human. It was a nice tribute to someone who everyone describes again and and again as just a "good man through and through."

We went to the reception afterward to support Truman, and it, too, was a bit of a mixed group but less mixed than the memorial service. I was a bit worried given my status as a former JW that someone, somewhere might know this and make a deal of us being there. That didn't happen. Also, it probably wouldn't have been good PR for the witnesses (e.g. shunning in a mixed group of people in a high profile community event such as this). Had that happened, I would've just quietly slipped out. Truman wanted us with her at the family table, so that is where we sat. I was worried about intruding but I wanted to offer support. I tried to listen carefully to whatever Truman expressed as her wishes and just follow that.

Glendon's tragic death has been truly gut wrenching. I grieve for Truman and her family. I also grieve for Glendon, even though I hadn't ever met him. He had such a big impact on so many and was clearly such an exceptional person that I feel very sad that I did not know him personally. A very good person died several days ago. That is a loss for everyone. The world needs more people like Glendon in it to make it a better place to be for every one of us.

Love,

laverite