Posts by exwhyzee

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How do you make a living?

by paulnotsaul in

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since most of us believed it was right around the corner, how many of you went to any secondary schools or training?

what do you do now to survive?

are you working or unemployed?

AFTER LEAVING BETHEL I TOOK A MEAT CUTTING COURSE BY MAIL BUT IT DIDN'T WORK OUT TOO WELL. THE POSTMAN HAD TROUBLE STUFFING THE BLOODY SLABS OF BEEF THROUGH THE MAIL SLOT IN MY FRONT DOOR. THEN I USED MY FACTORY EXPERIENCE TO GET A JOB AT A SHOE MANUFACTURER WHERE I WAS PUT IN CHARGE OF GLUING THOSE LITTLE CELLULOID TIPS ONTO THE ENDS OF SHOE LACES.

BUT SERIOUSLY....

I AM A PROJECT MANAGER AND DEVELOPMENT INSPECTOR FOR A MUNICIPAL ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT OVERSEEING AND INSPECTING MUNICIPAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS RANGING FROM PUBLIC TRANSIT CENTERS, PARKS, RECONSTRUCTION OF STREETS, INSTALLATIONS OF UTILITIES, SIDEWALKS, TRAFFIC SIGNALS ETC. MY DUTIES ALSO INCLUDE ISSUING OF PERMITS, CODE ENFORCEMENT, OBTAINING GRANTS...BLAH BLAH...

NORMALLY YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BACHELORS DEGREE TO GET THIS JOB BUT I WAS ABLE TO COMBINE CERTAIN CERTIFICATIONS AND LICENSES I HOLD ALONG WITH TRAINING, PAST EXPERIENCE AND A LITTLE CREATIVE RESUME WRITING TO SQUEEK MYSELF INTO AN INTERVIEW. THEY HIRED ME BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT I COULD DO THE JOB OF COURSE BUT MOSTLY BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT I WOULD BE A GOOD FIT WITH THE DEPARTMENT. I HAVE TO CREDIT THE DOOR TO DOOR WORK AND MINISTRY SCHOOL FOR HELPING ME DO WELL IN INTERVIEWS. (AT LEAST I HAVE SOMETHING TO SHOW FOR ALL THOSE YEARS)

I HAD JUST LEFT THE ORGANIZATION, WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF REMODELING MY HOUSE AND MY SON WAS GOING THROUGH CHEMOTHERAPY WHEN I GOT THE JOB. I THOUGHT IF I COULD JUST MAKE IT THROUGH ALL OF THIS TURMOIL AT HOME AND LEARN THIS JOB I CAN DO ANYTHING. THEN THE ECONOMY TANKED. BEING THE NEW GUY I WAS LIVING WEEK TO WEEK...THEN MONTH TO MONTH THINKING IF I CAN JUST MAKE IT TO THE ONE YEAR MARK WITHOUT GETTING LAID OFF, I'LL BE OK. NOWADAYS I'M LOOKING AT THE UPCOMMING FIVE YEAR MARK AS AN ACCOMPLISHMENT.

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Help! I'm having serious thoughts about going back

by lola28 in

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hello old friends, i've been thinking about going back and need you all to give me your thoughts on it.. the last year has been a horribe one for me, in the span of less than a year the following things have happened to me:.

lost my mom to cancergot hit by a carhad a professional set back that will cost over 600k to resolveended a three and a half year relationshipit just feels like every time i think things are going to get better something else hits me and knocks me down, a small part of me wonders wether i brought all these things on myself because i left the organization (yes i know how silly that sounds) and i have given serious thought about going back.

i need you guys to talk me out of it!.

exwhyzee

To go back because you think these bad things have happened to you since you left the organization is to say God is punishing you and also sort of egotistical. If God is truly punishing you, don't you think he'd be even angrier if you go back under false pretenses?

Bad things like this happen to good JW's too. I know a wonderful guy who is the father of 5 kids. He lives for the "TRUTH" in the space of 2 years, he lost his job, had his house repossed and died during surgery for some rare heart defect. He couldn't take Blood and they gave him a 10% chance of surviving with blood and a 1 percent chance without blood. He basically said goodbye to his wife and kids when they wheeled him in to surgery. I know so many cases like this. His wife and kids live in a crummy little rental house because the only job she could get was in a fabric store.

I left the Org and my life was instantly better but I was waiting for the axe to fall. Wasn't Satan supposed to be lying in wait for me? Then a few months later I got the best job of my life..."But wait" I said to myself "Maybe Satan is helping me now that I'm supposedly on his side" Then I realized that my JW training had set me up in two ways. If I leave and do well....it's Satan but if I leave and do badly It's Satan double crossing me and God punishing me.

If you go back, do it for the right reasons, not because you are superstitious.

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If you got apostate vids on Youtube take em off now!!! Legal Dept to Sue!

by smithmandy1 in

i've posted this on the wrong section so i'm posting it on here cos its sort of to topic as i know many of you have vids on youtube.

legal department are beginning legal action against google and its uploaders regards to apostate vids that slander the watchtower and/or contain copyrighted material!!!

my hubby knows people who know so heres my warning lol.

exwhyzee

I apologize if I'm wrong but this post smacks of someone engaging in"spiritual warfare" where the end (gagging WT critics) justifies the means (spreading falsehoods).

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Have you lost your sense of "happy ever after"?

by londonlady in

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i'm glad to be out but i've since had the sensation that the "happy ever after" ending i always thought would come will not come.

there will be no happy ending, just an oridary life.

thats quite a werid sensation to contemplate... what do you think?.

exwhyzee

On some level I think all JW's and former JW's realize that the JW version of happily ever after will not happen....well at least in their lifetime. I think thats why there's so much depression and anxiety among those who are or were JW's. The dream is only as good as your last meeting. As soon as you miss one or two, the plausability of it fades. The big hook for me as a kid was not getting destroyed at Armegeddon coupled with the idea of having my own pet Lion and Dolphin but I never thought much beyond that. The idea of living forever was one they implanted in my mind, I dont think I'd have expected such a thing on my own. I never felt I could, would or wanted to be as good and religious as they said God expected me to be. It felt hopeless in a way. I didn't want to die a Armegeddon so since I was already here, I may as well try to avoid going that scary route by doing what they said would keep me alive, but it never seemed to be enough. Now the idea of living forever with the Watchtower gang running things seems almost nightmarish in a way. Just because I was randomly born all those years ago meant I was here permenently for all eternity without any choice.

Now that I'm out of the Org, I have resigned myself to the fact that I will grow old and die one day. Sometimes at the end of a long day as I lay my head on my pillow I think I wouldn't mind it so much if I could sleep forever. Don't get me wrong, I think being alive is the best way to be and I always feel like somehow I'll figure out a way to get through whatever lies ahead just like I always have before. That's my happily ever after and it seems do able and real. Once you aren't afraid of dying, you gain a certain peace that makes being alive so much better. Day to day overall I feel more worthy to be included in any good future that is planned for the human race, should such plans exist. I don't see any reason why I should be excluded...like Hitler or Ted Bundy might be. I't has also been a relief to realize that there is no such thing as "wasted time". Time passes whether you use it productively or not. Happily ever after is a day to day goal rather than an eternity goal. And that is within my grasp...my power.

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no praying before meals?

by londonlady in

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i was recently in the company of a jw.

this is a long time devout jw and i served them a meal.

i was surprised by their reaction, they simply sat down, grabbed a fork and began shoveling???

exwhyzee

Where did the notion that you should pray before every meal come from? All I can think of is the idea came from the Last Supper when Jesus prayed before they ate. I used to hate praying outloud. It seemed not only too personal but also forced and repetitive. There was always that moment when everyone was waiting to see if others were going to pray or just start eating. I used to hate meals when I'd be asked to pray. When asked, I finally just started saying " no thanks " or " why don't we just say our own prayers ?". This was just something that just wasn't done, so as you can imagine there was always an awkward silence afterward.

You could never go on a picnic or a camping trip with JW's without someone having to do a public prayer or where a watchtower study would spontaneously break out. We were on vacation in Florida a few months ago and we hooked up with a relative and his wife who are Bethelites. They'd say their prayers in restaurants, while having a snack on the beach...you name it. It all seemed so pious and ritualistic.

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What do you think?

by exwhyzee in

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this is so trivial but it has been a topic at my house lately and i wanted to present it to some of the brightest minds i know of.it's a pet peeve of mine to have someone younger than myself call me hun or honey.

i know there are bigger issues in the world to worry about but for some reason this gets under my skin like you wouldn't believe.normally i just ignore it when it happens but the other day i was at ikea and the 20 something female cashier said " that'll be $128.95 hun.

" i ignored the hun part and went ahead and swiped my debit card.

exwhyzee

Hey Mouthy (hun) ... don't pay any attention to me....you should keep on doing what you've been doing....it's obviously worked for you so far and you've lived to tell about it !

Zid : That's what I almost said to that cashier... " Did you call me Hun...as in Atilla the ??

Tec: Some people can get away with it such as a person with a heavy southern accent or a sweet grandmotherly type. There's this one lady that is a waitress at a cafe I go to. She calls everyone Babe,Baby or Sugar. "What'll it be Baby....Ok Sugar I'll be back with your drinks.....here ya go Babe" She's a Black woman from the south and it's actually really nice when she says it. She's probably in her 40's , very kind and she isn't smacking on gum or saying it because she thinks she's being clever.

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Caleb's dad

by poppers in

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i think immigration should check his papers, but i'll be darned if i can figure out what country he'd be deported to.

why would the makers of this dvd use such a ridiculous accent?.

exwhyzee

I work with a guy with this same accent and he is Brazillian so that's what I assumed his accent was. It does give it an international flair doesn't it? No one can say that they are only focusing on the USA or white folk.

I hate the way the Mom says Satan (Sayt' en) Sounds sort of Valley Girl-esque.... " Like Caleb, you could sooo totally like, make Sayt'-en happy if you like, play with that toy"

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What do you think?

by exwhyzee in

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friends

this is so trivial but it has been a topic at my house lately and i wanted to present it to some of the brightest minds i know of.it's a pet peeve of mine to have someone younger than myself call me hun or honey.

i know there are bigger issues in the world to worry about but for some reason this gets under my skin like you wouldn't believe.normally i just ignore it when it happens but the other day i was at ikea and the 20 something female cashier said " that'll be $128.95 hun.

" i ignored the hun part and went ahead and swiped my debit card.

exwhyzee

This is so trivial but it has been a topic at my house lately and I wanted to present it to some of the brightest minds I know of. It's a pet peeve of mine to have someone younger than myself call me Hun or Honey. I know there are bigger issues in the world to worry about but for some reason this gets under my skin like you wouldn't believe. Normally I just ignore it when it happens but the other day I was at IKEA and the 20 something female cashier said " That'll be $128.95 Hun." I ignored the Hun part and went ahead and swiped my debit card. Then she handed me a pen and said " Can I get you to sign your receipt now Hun ? " As I was signing I said with a smile " Are you calling me Hun cause I've got kids older than you...anyone who calls me Hon better be over 70 and better be from the South . " She looked at me blankly and sort of made a sickly chuckle noise. Is it me or does this seem sort of condesending to to be called Hun by someone much younger than ones self ? Or should I get down off my high horse and get over myself and focus on real problems? I chided myself later for maybe having embarrased her for no good reason.

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You have to admit, Watchtower Productions have come a long way...

by exwhyzee in

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but they still present their message in a very one sided, unrealistic and propaganda like manner.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzfu_vcwqso.

exwhyzee

But they still present their message in a very one sided, unrealistic and propaganda like manner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzfU_vCwqSo

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New DVD "Become Jehovah's Friend"

by treadnh2o in

hey peeps,.

it's been a long while since i've posted (i am completely out - wife and kids still in) but thought you might this interesting.. they came home from the district convention yesterday with the new dvd intended for kids.

they popped it in right away and this is what happens:.

exwhyzee

I was half expecting that toy Wizard to come flying back out of the trash can. Maybe if enough JW kids see the Wizard on this video, it will show up one day at some Kingdom Hall doing cartwheels on the literature counter and will replace the somewhat outdated smurf legend. After all viewing a wizard or owning a DVD with a wizard in it could be enough to invite the demons in.

I'm surprised that they didn't tell Caleb that when he disobeys Mommy and Daddy , it makes the baby Jesus cry. But then again might be placing undue emphasis on Jesus.