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  A new lesson from Caleb's mom...

  by cedars in

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  ...totally freak out and drop something if your child fails to say "please.".

  http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/please-thank-you/.

  the woman is clearly a nervous wreck, and very easily offended.. if this is her reaction to caleb forgetting his manners, i shudder to think how she will cope if she ever finds him doing drugs.. .

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  That was a pretty lousy looking sandwich. Where's the meat mom?
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  DC: apostates are the Anti-Christ

  by under_believer in

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  2. friends

  the more you know, i guess.. also, they used a metaphor likening them to known sex offenders.

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  good times over here in day 2. .

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  MrFreeze

  The whole thing with apostates in Bible times is that the apostates were trying to get their own following. Rarely do you see modern day "apostates" doing that. You are deemed apostate for just telling the truth (and they will admit that).
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  Interesting quote from the DC

  by GoodGuyGreg in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i don't know if anybody else has mentioned this, but i'm currently at a dc in sweden, and this morning, during the symposium on different kinds of service, it was mentioned that 40% of baptisms are the result of informal witnessing.

  if you add the number of baptisms of children of jw parents to this, how many are left that are baptized as a result of the door-to-door work?

  doesn't sound very effective at all....

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  Reminds me of my discussion with two elders Christmas day a few years back. I brought up about how JW's are taught only JW's will survive Armageddon. They said it wasn't true. God reads hearts. It isn't up to us to decide. People can hear the message and decide whether or not to accept it. Here's what I told them:

  "You mean to tell me that someone is going to be judged based on a door-to-door visit where they turned the magazines down? Put yourself in their shoes. Saturday morning, you are eating breakfast with your family on your day off and two random people come to your door and offer you magazines. You really didn't want to be bothered today so you just said 'Sorry, not interest.' You mean to tell me that you are going to be judged eternally based on that?" All I got was deer in the headlights.

  Have you seen some of these people they send door-to-door? If I owned an electronic shop, I wouldn't trust half of them selling TV's let alone trying to sell something as important as the religion that determines your everlasting well-being.
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  Classic 1969 footage from the BBC on 1975...

  by wizzstick in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  found this on you tube:.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4as2abu8cm4.

  relevant jw bits are from:.

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  MrFreeze

  The guy who left the church and wrote that book had it nailed down exactly what the WT would do when 1975 failed.
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  A scary day in FS today

  by InChristAlone in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today, the jw who normally comes and his son visited my house.

  we were talking on the doorstep for about ten or fifteen minutes when the son began to to faint.

  i saw it coming, but i couldn't reach him before he fell backwards, hitting his head on the brick landscaping border.

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  Do you live in the area of the US that is experiencing extreme temperatures? Hope he'll be okay.
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  Your views and ideas on forum areas and organization?

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  this may come as a shock to some people, but the current forum structure was kind of thrown together without much real thought and then evolved a bit over time.

  there are a few things that particularly grate on me and areas where i don't think the subjects work particularly well.

  'friends' is a bit vague and becomes a dumping ground, news & world events vs politics & current affairs is hard to decide sometimes, child abuse is a scandal but isn't contained withing 'scandals & coverups' etc.... with a new forum platform imminent, it's a good time to solicit ideas to improve things.

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  Is the new forum coming during the overlapping generations?
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  Millions now living will never die

  by MrFreeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yes, rutherford proclaimed in 1918 that "millions now living will never die.

  " well it's been 95 years since.

  how many 95+ year old people are alive on earth today?

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  Yes, Rutherford proclaimed in 1918 that "millions now living will never die." Well it's been 95 years since. How many 95+ year old people are alive on earth today? Does it number into the millions?
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  Rich people don't create jobs

  by slimboyfat in

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  2. current

  just when i was thinking i don't like ted talks, this is an excellent take on job creation and wealth distribution.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckcvf8e7v1g.

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  Okay truthurts, why don't we replace the word "Rich" with "Greedy". I think that is a more fair assessment. I don't resent people who are rich. I resent people who step over everyone else to get an extra buck. This video is saying what I've been saying since I first heard this debate. The greediest rich people out there are not up in arms about everyone wanting them to pay higher taxes because its less money they have to help other people by putting that money elsewhere. Those greedy people are up in arms because its less money in their pocket.

  It doesn't matter how rich you are. If nobody can afford to buy what you are offering, you will go out of business.
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  Assuming the flood story was true , did humans eat meat before the flood ?

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  or did the slaughtering of animals as sacrificed to god from abel`s time on , just appease his blood lust.. smiddy.

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  MrFreeze

  THey ate/sacrificed animals as soon as they got off the ark. I guess that means that a species was wiped out from it.

  But it doesn't matter since humans were eating meat since as long as they existed... thousands upon thousands upon thousands of years before the flood supposedly occured.

  I guess god never heard of genetic bottlenecking either.
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  Why do witnesses listen to their GB

  by speargrass55 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello everyone, i want us to discuss the gbs right to control jws.

  the gb claim, and rf jws believe that they can't understand the bible without help from the gb.

  when you ask them why they listen to the gb you hear stuff like .

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  MrFreeze

  The biggest kicker is that they claim they aren't inspired by god... just directed by him. This way, they can just claim they are imperfect men doing the best they can. Wait... but god is directing them... so god directed them in the wrong direction? If you had a GPS that was constantly giving you incorrect directions, you'd say that was a pretty crappy GPS.