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  Iraqis in Iran (free from US military) express their support for Saddam

  by Elsewhere in

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  http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,83889,00.html

  200 iraqis storm their embassy in iran .

  friday, april 11, 2003. .

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  Gerard

  They have sucumbed to Iranian propaganda that the USA is against ALL Moslem countries. Be careful...
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  Why is CNN so critical of toppling Saddam's Regime?

  by Gerard in

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  [eason jordan is cnn's president.

  after the fall of bagdad and undergoing a crisis of conscience, he reveals why cnn has "misinformed" the american public regarding sadam's brutal regime.].

  the news we kept to ourselves.

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  [Eason Jordan is CNN's president. After the fall of Bagdad and undergoing a crisis of conscience, he reveals why CNN has "misinformed" the American public regarding Sadam's brutal regime.]

  The News We Kept to Ourselves

  By EASON JORDAN

  http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/11/opinion/11JORD.html

  ATLANTA — [April 11, 2003] Over the last dozen years I made 13 trips to Baghdad to lobby the government to keep CNN's Baghdad bureau open and to arrange interviews with Iraqi leaders. Each time I visited, I became more distressed by what I saw and heard — awful things that could not be reported because doing so would have jeopardized the lives of Iraqis, particularly those on our Baghdad staff.

  For example, in the mid-1990's one of our Iraqi cameramen was abducted. For weeks he was beaten and subjected to electroshock torture in the basement of a secret police headquarters because he refused to confirm the government's ludicrous suspicion that I was the Central Intelligence Agency's Iraq station chief. CNN had been in Baghdad long enough to know that telling the world about the torture of one of its employees would almost certainly have gotten him killed and put his family and co-workers at grave risk.

  Working for a foreign news organization provided Iraqi citizens no protection. The secret police terrorized Iraqis working for international press services who were courageous enough to try to provide accurate reporting. Some vanished, never to be heard from again. Others disappeared and then surfaced later with whispered tales of being hauled off and tortured in unimaginable ways. Obviously, other news organizations were in the same bind we were when it came to reporting on their own workers.

  We also had to worry that our reporting might endanger Iraqis not on our payroll. I knew that CNN could not report that Saddam Hussein's eldest son, Uday, told me in 1995 that he intended to assassinate two of his brothers-in-law who had defected and also the man giving them asylum, King Hussein of Jordan. If we had gone with the story, I was sure he would have responded by killing the Iraqi translator who was the only other participant in the meeting. After all, secret police thugs brutalized even senior officials of the Information Ministry, just to keep them in line (one such official has long been missing all his fingernails).

  Still, I felt I had a moral obligation to warn Jordan's monarch, and I did so the next day. King Hussein dismissed the threat as a madman's rant. A few months later Uday lured the brothers-in-law back to Baghdad; they were soon killed.

  I came to know several Iraqi officials well enough that they confided in me that Saddam Hussein was a maniac who had to be removed. One Foreign Ministry officer told me of a colleague who, finding out his brother had been executed by the regime, was forced, as a test of loyalty, to write a letter of congratulations on the act to Saddam Hussein. An aide to Uday once told me why he had no front teeth: henchmen had ripped them out with pliers and told him never to wear dentures, so he would always remember the price to be paid for upsetting his boss. Again, we could not broadcast anything these men said to us.

  Last December, when I told Information Minister Muhammad Said al-Sahhaf that we intended to send reporters to Kurdish-controlled northern Iraq, he warned me they would "suffer the severest possible consequences." CNN went ahead, and in March, Kurdish officials presented us with evidence that they had thwarted an armed attack on our quarters in Erbil. This included videotaped confessions of two men identifying themselves as Iraqi intelligence agents who said their bosses in Baghdad told them the hotel actually housed C.I.A. and Israeli agents. The Kurds offered to let us interview the suspects on camera, but we refused, for fear of endangering our staff in Baghdad.

  Then there were the events that were not unreported but that nonetheless still haunt me. A 31-year-old Kuwaiti woman, Asrar Qabandi, was captured by Iraqi secret police occupying her country in 1990 for "crimes," one of which included speaking with CNN on the phone. They beat her daily for two months, forcing her father to watch. In January 1991, on the eve of the American-led offensive, they smashed her skull and tore her body apart limb by limb. A plastic bag containing her body parts was left on the doorstep of her family's home.

  I felt awful having these stories bottled up inside me. Now that Saddam Hussein's regime is gone, I suspect we will hear many, many more gut-wrenching tales from Iraqis about the decades of torment. At last, these stories can be told freely.
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  Arabs confused by Iraqi’s acceptance of coalition troops

  by Elsewhere in

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  an article from the al jazeera web site... .

  http://english.aljazeera.net/topics/article.asp?cu_no=1&item_no=2299&version=1&template_id=263&parent_id=258.

  (because the address has "&" signs in it, you will have to cut and paste the address into a new browser to view to actual web site.).

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  Too much to watch A Jordanian in Amman covers his face in front of a television showing a U.S. Marine draping a U.S. flag over the face of a statue of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein in Baghdad on Wednesday. Jubilant Iraqis tied a noose around the statue and pelted it with shoes as Saddam's 24-year rule collapsed in chaos.

  Gone fishing Pfc. Mark Bennett drops a line in the lake surrounding one of Saddam Hussein's palaces in western Baghdad. Bennett was using noodles from a chicken with noodles MRE as bait, but didn't have any luck.
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  USA- Liberator?

  by proplog2 in

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  don't get sucked in by the propaganda that the usa is some kind of benevolent angel promoting freedom for a world suffering under ruthless dictators.. do you remember the shah of iran?.

  do you know anything about how he came to power?.

  have you ever heard of savak?

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  Gerard

  Iraqis seem to like it...
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  French Media Warns President Chirac of Isolation

  by Gerard in

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  looters sacked the german embassy and a french cultural centre in the capital, carrying off furniture, fridges and electrical equipment.

  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2937613.stm

  bbc correspondent emma jane kirby, in paris, says that many french people, who believed this was an illegal and hot-headed war, have been stunned by the welcome american forces received in baghdad on wednesday.

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  Looters sacked the German embassy and a French cultural centre in the capital, carrying off furniture, fridges and electrical equipment.

  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2937613.stm

  BBC correspondent Emma Jane Kirby, in Paris, says that many French people, who believed this was an illegal and hot-headed war, have been stunned by the welcome American forces received in Baghdad on Wednesday. French media have warned that President Chirac is now threatened with isolation on the international stage.

  IMO, well deserved!
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  Arabs confused by Iraqi’s acceptance of coalition troops

  by Elsewhere in

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  an article from the al jazeera web site... .

  http://english.aljazeera.net/topics/article.asp?cu_no=1&item_no=2299&version=1&template_id=263&parent_id=258.

  (because the address has "&" signs in it, you will have to cut and paste the address into a new browser to view to actual web site.).

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  Gerard

  That is a compeling article, thanks for posting it.

  I wonder what will the Arab's reaction be now that the sight turning at North Korea. War on terror does not equate to a cruzade.
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  SEE THE REAL FACE OF THE WAR IN IRAQ, SEE THE HORROR

  by justhuman in

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  since the media in u.s show nothing about the war in iraq, and bush's administration censor everything that is "bad' for the puplic, here are some shocking photos of how bush is setting free the iraqi people.

  similar view of how watchtower's god will treat everyone who disagrees with them in armageddon.

  bush does not care about the iraqi people.

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  Gerard

  And in Basra, Baathist militiamen with AK-47 assault rifles opened fire on civilian vehicles on Sunday, wounding one man, in an attempt to force civilians to fight US and British troops, witnesses said.

  Report by: Al Jezeera http://english.aljazeera.net/topics/article.asp?cu_no=1&item_no=2056&version=1&template_id=277&parent_id=258

  There's a reason for this war. I just wish so many civilians were not dying...
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  U.N. Dismantled

  by joannadandy in

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  i just read an article where they were interviewing noam chomsky.

  (i'm not even going to post the whole article because i know with 95% accuracy who will post on the thread, which posters will think he is a brilliant guy, and which posters think he is a pinko cornholio.

  ) in the article he mentioned, and then loosely named the wasington post and wall street journal, that there is a new call that perhaps the u.n. should disband.

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  Gerard

  And in Basra, Baathist militiamen with AK-47 assault rifles opened fire on civilian vehicles on Sunday, wounding one man, in an attempt to force civilians to fight US and British troops, witnesses said.

  [By: Al Jezeera : http://english.aljazeera.net/topics/article.asp?cu_no=1&item_no=2056&version=1&template_id=277&parent_id=258

  So, how subjective is this?

  U.N. will remain. Just think of the best way to deal with, say, N. Kora is through pressure by a multilateral forum.
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  Mourners offended when JWs target them at the cemetary!

  by joe_from_kokomo in

  1. watchtower
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  friends and 'ex-friends': .

  you'll find this little ditty of a news story very amusing.

  it seems some overly-zealous sister from the uk was pestering the grieving worldly ones at the local cemetary so much that they got mad and complained to the cemetary owner, who then complained to the kh overseer.

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  Gerard

  Paul Gillies, the British Jehovah's Witness movement's spokesman, said: "Jehovah's Witnesses try to share their beliefs with people whenever they have the opportunity."

  Now that's an eloquent defense for their lack of respect!
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  ROLL CALL!!!!! How many people are on this forum?

  by NaruNaruChan in

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  i'm so curious!

  if you see this, sign your name and your location if you want, cuz i wanna know how many people actively view this!

  ^_^

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  Gerard

  I just took an estimate from the Member Directory

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/members/A/1.ashx

  and it apears to be about 6,000 members.