i have received a reply from the society regarding this issue.
sorry, no scanner but quoted below .there was just an introduction and concluding paragraph in addition to this :-.
"after looking into the matter when it was first raised, we found that none of the legal corporations used by the governing body in caring for the kingdom interests own stock in rand cam corporation or any associate company involved in developing the diesel engine in question.
" in no way can anyone convince me they didn't know. this is JUST like the UN debacle. caught red handed. then play stupid, and deny, deny, deny.
ZEV"
Can't agree with you more. If denial were legal, prisons would be empty.
Edited by - Gerard on 2 December 2002 11:3:6
i have received a reply from the society regarding this issue.
sorry, no scanner but quoted below .there was just an introduction and concluding paragraph in addition to this :-.
"after looking into the matter when it was first raised, we found that none of the legal corporations used by the governing body in caring for the kingdom interests own stock in rand cam corporation or any associate company involved in developing the diesel engine in question.
Did any of you actualy expected a confesion of their treachery and manipulation? WAKEUP! There is no relationship between donating profits and registered ownership of stocks open for public trading.
As with the UN membership, they were cought in the lie and now throw some more lies:
Edited by - Gerard on 30 November 2002 14:26:20
Edited by - Gerard on 30 November 2002 14:31:51
i have received a reply from the society regarding this issue.
sorry, no scanner but quoted below .there was just an introduction and concluding paragraph in addition to this :-.
"after looking into the matter when it was first raised, we found that none of the legal corporations used by the governing body in caring for the kingdom interests own stock in rand cam corporation or any associate company involved in developing the diesel engine in question.
The first sentence was removed as it contained -irrelevant- information that could be used to locate its recipient.
Gerry
i have received a reply from the society regarding this issue.
sorry, no scanner but quoted below .there was just an introduction and concluding paragraph in addition to this :-.
"after looking into the matter when it was first raised, we found that none of the legal corporations used by the governing body in caring for the kingdom interests own stock in rand cam corporation or any associate company involved in developing the diesel engine in question.
Here is a scan of the WT's reply sent to BluesBrother:
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Edited by - Gerard on 29 November 2002 9:46:20
Edited by - Gerard on 29 November 2002 9:47:20
dear brothers:
as you have admitted, the watch tower bible & tract society did join the united nations as a non government organization in 1992 ending in 2001, and according to the following watch tower this means that by their own actions they disassociated them selves from jehovahs organization which means that we must treat them like disfellowshiped ones.
in other words they are no longer jehovahs witnesses or have any right to that name.
It seems Yardif defends both positions of the same argument. Waste of time to read your posts...
Edited by - Gerard on 28 November 2002 12:58:42
i have received a reply from the society regarding this issue.
sorry, no scanner but quoted below .there was just an introduction and concluding paragraph in addition to this :-.
"after looking into the matter when it was first raised, we found that none of the legal corporations used by the governing body in caring for the kingdom interests own stock in rand cam corporation or any associate company involved in developing the diesel engine in question.
"But according to the Society's explanation - which sounds sensible to me - they have had no shares at all."
The two snipers recently arrested were found to have a rifle in their possesion which was soon proven to be the murder weapon. Are you saying that under the massive evidence, the two snipers should be sent free just because they said "it was not theirs" and "they did not do it"?
Similarly with the Rand Cam/ REGI stocks, the SEC filings are OFFICIAL and explicit. But of course the WT will deny it! The WT was caught with their pants down...and denial was expected; that's why in Mexico they are called The Apostles of Denial. It is up to its members and ex-members to hold them responsible for their decades-long lies and spiritual abuse.
Gerry
i have received a reply from the society regarding this issue.
sorry, no scanner but quoted below .there was just an introduction and concluding paragraph in addition to this :-.
"after looking into the matter when it was first raised, we found that none of the legal corporations used by the governing body in caring for the kingdom interests own stock in rand cam corporation or any associate company involved in developing the diesel engine in question.
GermanJW,
Filing SEC documents implies you also file for taxes related to this stocks. I do not believe by a second that owning 50% Rand Cam Corp AND 49% Rand Energy Group AND 45% Regi US Inc could be disregarded by either the SEC or the IRS, even if no net profit was earned.
Their name is all over the SEC filings and yet, ONCE MORE, you are being told that what you saw and read is false and does not exist. If any of you believe the "library card" explanation for being a UN member and "ignorance" justification that they owned these stocks, it does not speak good of your intelect and self respect.
Cheers,
Gerry
Edited by - Gerard on 27 November 2002 10:19:57
i have received a reply from the society regarding this issue.
sorry, no scanner but quoted below .there was just an introduction and concluding paragraph in addition to this :-.
"after looking into the matter when it was first raised, we found that none of the legal corporations used by the governing body in caring for the kingdom interests own stock in rand cam corporation or any associate company involved in developing the diesel engine in question.
As I stated before: Measured by the same moral and doctrinal standards they impose on its members, there is simply no proper justification to holding on to the "Sister Companies'" shares. Ignorance of their possession is not an excuse because, as a majority share-holder, the WT Society has received no less than 52 SEC filing copies plus -at least- 60 official news releases by REGI updating them on their company's progress. And this is in addition to the thousands of financial reports, memos and other internal correspondence required to operate such corporations for more than 16 years.
It will be interesting to follow the SEC filings and internal trading reports to see how this was "fixed". But I am not surprised by this denial, that seems to be their default strategy for most problems borne public. Declining responsibility is a pathetic attempt to represent any truth.
Gerry
Edited by - Gerard on 26 November 2002 16:49:12
Edited by - Gerard on 26 November 2002 16:51:43
dear brothers:
as you have admitted, the watch tower bible & tract society did join the united nations as a non government organization in 1992 ending in 2001, and according to the following watch tower this means that by their own actions they disassociated them selves from jehovahs organization which means that we must treat them like disfellowshiped ones.
in other words they are no longer jehovahs witnesses or have any right to that name.
Emancipated,
Yardif's inability to respond is derived from his blind denial. Note he did not respond to my questions on REGI US ownership and its bussiness with the US Navy. He has an elephant in his living room and has chosen to ignore it.
dear brothers:
as you have admitted, the watch tower bible & tract society did join the united nations as a non government organization in 1992 ending in 2001, and according to the following watch tower this means that by their own actions they disassociated them selves from jehovahs organization which means that we must treat them like disfellowshiped ones.
in other words they are no longer jehovahs witnesses or have any right to that name.
"First of all, you nor anyone else can prove such a thing [UN membership] Have you got copies? No you don't!"
Buddy, the World knows! Don't bother with my copies, go to any public library and ask for a inter-library loan of the UN's NGO directory. They still apear in the 2001-2002 directory. The three WT signatures are by: Ciro Aulicino, Lloyd Barry and Robert Johnson .
When you are before Jehovah, you'll have a lot of explaining to do because the information on the WT's mistakes and lies is available so claiming ignorance and indulge in blind denial does not relieve you from responsibility. I hope you open your eyes one day to the abuse you are being subjected.
Cheers,
Gerry
