Posts by elderelite

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Definitely getting DF'ed now

by notverylikely in

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came out as an apostate to the wife, came out about the depression, anger at being second fiddle in her life to 9 old guys in brooklyn, came out about having turned atheist, came out about the indiscrections, the tobacco use, everything.. fuck.

me..

elderelite

Yknot, I love your kind heart. Truly. but a wise man once wrote,

(Ecclesiastes

3:1-8)3 For everything there is an appointed time, even a time for every affair under the heavens: 2 a time for birth and a time to die; a time to plant and a time to uproot what was planted; 3 a time to kill and a time to heal; a time to break down and a time to build; 4 a time to weep and a time to laugh; a time to wail and a time to skip about; 5 a time to throw stones away and a time to bring stones together; a time to embrace and a time to keep away from embracing; 6 a time to seek and a time to give up as lost; a time to keep and a time to throw away; 7 a time to rip apart and a time to sew together; a time to keep quiet and a time to speak; 8 a time to love and a time to hate; a time for war and a time for peace.

This one dosent seem fixable.

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by Quillsky in

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elderelite

blondie covered it all!

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by Quillsky in

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elderelite

So i guess "c" isnt needed?

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awsome theme song for a cartoon

by elderelite in

ok i admitt i still love cartoons, of sorts.

i will watch anything from bugs bunny to phineas and ferb.

this is my personal favorite and its theme song.

elderelite

i loved the inhumanoids concept, but there were very few episodes and it wasnt well thought out. it was one of those toy lines that they tried to tie into a cartoon. It had a lot of potental but never worked out. I acutally like a part of the song.. i think it went "the evil that lies within". it refered both to the underground evil and the nature of some people. lots of potential...

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by Quillsky in

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The two witness rule

by dgp in

suppose an active jehovah's witness sees a worldly person abusing a worldly child; for example, touching her genitals, and the witness goes to the police.

the worldly police will take action.. now, suppose the same jehovah's witness also sees a witness abusing a witness child in the same way, touching her genitals.

the witness knows he can't go to the elders because there are not two witnesses to the fact.. does the witness get to think that there is something very wrong about the two witnesses rule?

elderelite

we are not talking about the secular authorites. I am only addressing how the congregation can handle these things and still use the principle of two witnesses. on the secular side though, children are sent to mental health professionals who attest that the children are telling the truth.

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The two witness rule

by dgp in

suppose an active jehovah's witness sees a worldly person abusing a worldly child; for example, touching her genitals, and the witness goes to the police.

the worldly police will take action.. now, suppose the same jehovah's witness also sees a witness abusing a witness child in the same way, touching her genitals.

the witness knows he can't go to the elders because there are not two witnesses to the fact.. does the witness get to think that there is something very wrong about the two witnesses rule?

elderelite

I undertand Titus and I'm not bashing you. we are just talking... you dont like my idea of letting a parent be a "witness" by attesting that they believe their child is being truthfull?

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Good news, NFL fans...just say no to vuvuzelas

by Dark Side in

nfl raising the roof on noise meter at stadiums this season.

by michael mccarthy, usa today.

the nfl is relaxing its strict rules on crowd noise for the new season as part of an initiative to improve the in-stadium experience for millions of fans, says chief marketing officer mark waller.. the league will allow home clubs to incite the 12th man with visual noise meters and scoreboard messages such as "let's hear it!

elderelite

tammy,

girls dont get it. the noise is part of the mob mentality. but if your team can go in and punch the home team in the mouth it shuts that crowd noise right down. dont forget that teams play home/home so your team gets home field for a game, at least in division. its fair enough.

i say scream your guts out. it makes victory that much more satisfying

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what was the worst advice given to you while you were a JW ?

by wasblind in

mine's was, if your job interfere with the meetings you have to decide who you will choose,.

serving jehovah or serving man, if anyone knew my needs it most definitely was jehovah.

and he knew i needed my job to eat.

elderelite

hiding,

I heard the same advise. its very common. and very foolish.

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The two witness rule

by dgp in

suppose an active jehovah's witness sees a worldly person abusing a worldly child; for example, touching her genitals, and the witness goes to the police.

the worldly police will take action.. now, suppose the same jehovah's witness also sees a witness abusing a witness child in the same way, touching her genitals.

the witness knows he can't go to the elders because there are not two witnesses to the fact.. does the witness get to think that there is something very wrong about the two witnesses rule?

elderelite

I think there is an easy way for the branch to get around the "two witness rule" if they really wanted. First it is absolutly stupid to think there will ever be two witnesses to child abuse. just stupid. in order to work around that all the branch would have to do is allow the parents to be one of the witnesses. that is have the parent(s) attest that they have spoken with their child about the abuse and beleive what the child says is true. That satisfies the requirement for two witnesses (the child and the parent) and allows these matters to be delt with in a more real world maner . the fact is though, this wont happen. the branch would rather bury it all and pretend that God takes care of it.

I'm sorry titus but as an elder I can attest that everything said here is exactly how we are directed to handle these matters. I refuse to follow it, but i would be removed if it ever comes up in my congregation.