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  Calling Cult Classic!!!!!!

  by elderelite in

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  i still cant beleive it!!!!!!!!!!!!

  please, please check your pm's!!!!!!!!!!!

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  elderelite

  I still cant beleive it!!!!!!!!!!!! Please, Please check your PM's!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  Furnishing my apartment suggestions?

  by Voices in

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  i'm trying to ways to furnish my apartment.

  now, unfortunately, i'm going to be renting my furniture because i do not want an empty apartment with only a bed because it'll be my first apartment in like 8 years.

  i need my apartment to look elegant.

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  X2 craigslist

  x2 renting is a waste. Been there.
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  Meeting topics that cover sex

  by Libelle in

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  occassionally the mr will say that "some visitors are shocked because we will talk about sex, even with children in attendance.

  " what exactly are they talking about in these meetings.

  things like "don't masturbate" or things like if you position yourself like this, and your woman like this while having sex, then you're fornicating?.

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  Yes mag, it is. I will post the outline if you'd like, but i doubt anyone wants to see it. I have to agree with Cook. Not all elders are willing to go there. I will gladly talk with a younger brother one on one if they want but that is it. I would hope any man would have a talk like that with a younger guy if he needed it. However you have not will you ever catch this elder giving or addressing any of those topics from the platform. and as for the no foreplay thing... i've never heard that. If it were true i'd be DF'd for what me and Mrs did last night for sure..

  The no oral/anal is of course true and well documented by WT standards, but no one ever has seen or shown me anything that proves the branch comes down on simply "foreplay" among MARRIED people. of course they make it a JC matter if you are unmarried.

  We do a diservice when we exagerate things. there is enough that is wrong without getting carried away making things up or taking them out of context. We have all the facts needed to prove how wacko this thing is with what is really in print.
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  Who thinks more straight? Men or Women?

  by asilentone in

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  elderelite

  Men. I've known way to many bi-curious chicks...

  (edited to add: not that being a bi-curious chick is bad...)
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  My MS priviledges have just been removed, and I was 'privately reproved'.

  by african GB Member in

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  i am so sorry to all those who where inspired by my being an ms.. this means there will be no posting boe letters or anything to that effect as i do not have access to official jw website anymore..

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  LOL @ OZ and rubadub...

  AGBM, you are not irrelevant. not at all. clearly you have brought a lot of joy to those that have read this thread. So many have been able to pull off onliners that would have otherwise been left unsaid... you bring joy to many. You are our clown prince. we need you.
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  For Shelby, Tec and others who believe in Christ but not necessarily the bible...

  by elderelite in

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  i read with great interest that some believe in christ but notnecessarily the authenticity of the bible... could you please elaborate on that?

  i have to admit i am very interested in where people have ended up after leaving the wt.

  i am on that road and enjoy seeing where people have followed it.

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  Dougnuthole,

  I certainly dont mind reading what you or anyone else has to say.. I addressed much of this to Shelby since she speaks on it often but I thank you for your input. I am defiantly of the mind that the a Christian does not need every rule or law written down and certainly see the truth of what PS was saying that the scribes and praises had taken the written law and tried to prove themselves by it, only to have the Christ point out that they had missed the real point. I think I am good with that... but this matter of going beyond the bible, learning Christ outside of it is something I am struggling with. I get the illustration of a husband and wife and that adds up... however I would point out that while Mrs elite knows me like no one else, that is because we interact with each other every day. While one can "walk" with Christ by living according to what we read in the bible, how does one interact with him, in that sort of husband and wife type way?
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  For Shelby, Tec and others who believe in Christ but not necessarily the bible...

  by elderelite in

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  i read with great interest that some believe in christ but notnecessarily the authenticity of the bible... could you please elaborate on that?

  i have to admit i am very interested in where people have ended up after leaving the wt.

  i am on that road and enjoy seeing where people have followed it.

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  Shelby,

  no apology needed. I make it a habit to assume the best. I have also never noted that you avoid a question. Your answers have been interesting. the concept that "not all scripture is equal" makes sense...

  I am however unclear.. or uncertain... how to take some of this... Maybe I'm missing the point but the only way we know that a man named Jesus of Nazareth lived and walked the earth is thru the bible. I clearly get that not all of the bible relates to him but just focusing on the Greek scriptures, thats is how know anything of him at all. So how do you view the gospels, meaning Matthew, Mark, Luke and John? are they absolutely true and correct in all they record? If not, then how can you be sure of any of it? if so, if they are absolutely correct, how about the rest of the Greek scriptures..?

  i fully agree that Christian freedom means not having everything spelled out for us. the legalism of the WT is not one of its more lovable aspects..

  Your question to me as to which translation.. well clearly I have used the NWT until very recently almost exclusively. I now have multiple translations on my computer that I compare. You points as to the differences makes me again question how we can "know" anything since everything we know, including the fact that he lived and walked the earth, comes from a book that you admit is flawed... i understand that certainty in life is not possible but is your faith based on having heard your lord speak to you? If the things recorded in the bible "point to him" why would he not have made sure they pointed ACCURATELY to him? Did he simply allow things to be written to get the ball rolling but gave no consideration to whether they were truthfully and clear? How can one put faith in him without something solid upon witch to base that faith? If I cannot know him without hearing him, how can I ask to hear him? what comes first? Sorry for so many questions but I am in a confused place..
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  Bethel Rules

  by brotherdan in

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  this was brought up just in passing on another thread.

  but i wanted to see if there are any bethelites or ex bethelites that remember some of the crazy rules we had to follow when we were there..

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  elderelite

  Wow. Life, that was CRAZY! I was there in 92-94. I'm sure we have met. I worked in laundry but delivered to all buildings, including 90 sands. I know the reality of what you say. I often joked it was like being hebrew slaves. Making bricks without the straw...
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  My MS priviledges have just been removed, and I was 'privately reproved'.

  by african GB Member in

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  2. friends

  i am so sorry to all those who where inspired by my being an ms.. this means there will be no posting boe letters or anything to that effect as i do not have access to official jw website anymore..

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  elderelite

  LOL our favorite troll starts a topic and then COMPLETLY changes the tittle and subject... nice. BTW, MS dont get accesses to letters to the BOE. we know you are not the source we get them from. Sorry.
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  For Shelby, Tec and others who believe in Christ but not necessarily the bible...

  by elderelite in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i read with great interest that some believe in christ but notnecessarily the authenticity of the bible... could you please elaborate on that?

  i have to admit i am very interested in where people have ended up after leaving the wt.

  i am on that road and enjoy seeing where people have followed it.

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  elderelite

  I read with great interest that some believe in Christ but notnecessarily the authenticity of the bible... could you please elaborate on that? I have to admit I am very interested in where people have ended up after leaving the WT. I am on that road and enjoy seeing where people have followed it. I still WANT to believe in Christ but find it difficult, prob as result of not wanting to be burned again... thus I ask.. how do you come to what you believe? after all, everything we know of Jesus comes from the bible... how is it you separate what you accept as true and what is not? I find that I question everything now since the "bedrock" that I stood on was shaken.. how do you judge matters? Is it more of a Hebrew scripture/Greek scripture thing? Understand I am not mocking in the least, I truly am interested in how you ended up believing as you do...