Posts by nmthinker

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jw family loves to ask df'd ones for money!

by Ghiagirl in

well it finally happened!

we have been waiting about a year for this, my dfd husbands family asked us for money.

even though his own father hasn't met our 8 month old son.

nmthinker

When I was mentally in I would still give money to my DF'ed close family member in need.

I would sit down with them and determine whether they are really in need or do they just want a bailout of their poor decisions. You could ask them "If I was in need would you help me?" Try to reach their heart.

Refusing to help them because of the way they treat your husband will only enhance their indoctrinated world-view. If you are vindictive at all it will only strengthen their confidence that they are "doing the right thing for Jehovah"

Help them out but use this opportunity to open a dialogue, in love. Love hopes all things and love never fails

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Trying To Leave - Im Going Crazy

by pale.emperor in

this is my first post.

i really feel i need to leave the jw's rather than go along pretending everything is perfect etc.

no friends, me at work.

nmthinker

Welcome pale.emperor! Your story was riveting.

Interesting your wife was DF'ed immediately after the short affair. Was the elder also DF'ed? As we've seen many times the DF arrangement can be misused to silence those who's situation will reflect poorly on the organizational arrangement. Your story makes it sound like your wife was intentionally misled whereby those who heard the DF announcement likely concluded that your wife was an unrepentant adulterer. The elders are certainly aware of this so do not rule out the possibility they did this intentionally. Perhaps they wanted to protect their name and the organization at the expense of your wife throughout her pregnancy. I'm very sorry for both of you.

Be sure to reach out for professional help via talk therapy or psychiatric medications if necessary. Protect your mental health and your family, that is what matters now.

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Tight Pants

by pixel in

today is friday.

so let's see something refreshing on the new june 2016 study wt.

tight pants!.

nmthinker

OneEyedJoe very well said! I agree 100%

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"New light"?

by winstonchurchill in

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-june-2016/man-with-inkhorn/.

so i guess baptism is no longer the "mark for survival".. as a matter of fact, that key aspect of the 'old light' is not even acknowledged in this article.. they are just publishing new understanding without even bothering to explain the full extent of the change, hoping nobody will remember how it was... and they may be right about that..

nmthinker

@StephaneLaliberte - exactly!

I did a quick writeup of the new Sheep and goats understanding. My conclusion was that they are intentionally excluding all non-JW's from possibly being sheep, since the sheep need to support "Christ's brothers" AKA the annointed - AKA the governing body. Not everyone agrees with me but here is my writeup anyways.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5085516542246912/sheep-goats-light-gets-brighter

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What Is The Watchtower's Biggest Problem?

by minimus in

jw
friends

the organization has many problems.

certain doctrines are problematic.

the men who run the organizaion have issues.

nmthinker

They tell their followers to shun their own family if they leave the religion or break the rules.
Their doctrine makes no sense.

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Interlinear bible removed from the JW app?

by nmthinker in

my iphone doesn't have the interlinear bible anymore, the one with the greek and translated english together.

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did they remove it?

nmthinker

Sorry, false alarm. Looks like it the interlinear is still there but only for the New Testament.

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Interlinear bible removed from the JW app?

by nmthinker in

my iphone doesn't have the interlinear bible anymore, the one with the greek and translated english together.

.

did they remove it?

nmthinker

My iPhone doesn't have the interlinear bible anymore, the one with the Greek and translated English together.

Did they remove it?

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Question about visiting bethel ... akward moment at the end

by nevaagain in

jw
friends

since there a couple of ex-bethelites here, and a lot of people from the greater ny area who have probably visited the bethel in brooklyn and patterson many times, maybe they can shed some light into this curious question we (my wife and me) have for awhile.. so a couple of years ago, we happaned to be in the states and also went to visit the bethels in brooklyn and patterson.

we had the full package, what i mean is, not only we took the tour, but we also had someone to invite us for lunch.

while we wanted to enjoy our stay there, there was always a weird feeling being there.

nmthinker

Bethelite's make virtually NO money. We slipped our friends $100 each when we went. I mean its the least we could do. I may not agree with the borg but these are good people and they deserve something nice once in a while.

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BOE 2016-01-15 Re: New Feature on jw.org for Processing Recommendations of Elders and Ministerial Servants

by wifibandit in

boe 2016-01-15 re: new feature on jw.org for processing recommendations of elders and ministerial servants.

pdf.

thanks ich3b!.

nmthinker

This is all very creepy. Is the candidate given notice that his name is being submitted for approval? What does the branch do with the submissions? Credit check? Background check?

Have they digitized results of judicial hearings and submitted it electronically already?

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Who is your favourite thinker?

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

having recently read orwells 1984, i was impressed with how he understood that both politicians and people abuse language.

this further confirmed to me how the w.t had deceived me by using words to distort reality.

the book 1984, also contains many other great thoughts of george orwell.. of course there have been many other great thinkers, buddah, darwin, freud, einstein and marx come to mind.

nmthinker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsx1X8PV_A

In the field of economics and public policy Milton Friedman was a great thinker and debater.