bigmac

Joined

• started 119 topics
• posted 1,909 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by bigmac

• 
  17

  questions to jw waverers ,members on this site

  by bigmac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok i'm new here , posted a few times & still trying to figure out "who's what".

  i thought i'd start a thread directed at members who say they are still actively involved within the wt society.

  a few questions they might wish to address.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  bigmac

  @TITO i asked several questions, but not--"why"

  i just thought i'd drop a grenade in the custard, to see what happened.
• 
  17

  questions to jw waverers ,members on this site

  by bigmac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok i'm new here , posted a few times & still trying to figure out "who's what".

  i thought i'd start a thread directed at members who say they are still actively involved within the wt society.

  a few questions they might wish to address.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  bigmac

  OK i'm new here , posted a few times & still trying to figure out "who's what"

  i thought i'd start a thread directed at members who say they are still actively involved within the WT society

  a few questions they might wish to address

  for instance, if you are an elder, or servant, or otherwise held in high regard by your congregation

  do you think you are deceiving them?

  after all, what would they think if they knew what you post here?

  don't get the wrong idea--i'm glad you do--just seems like double standards to me.
• 
  58

  For those still in- why do you (really) stay, and what would it take for you to leave the org?

  by serenitynow! in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for the so-called conscious class, those of you who know it's all a disgusting lie, what is the real reason you stay in?

  i find it hard to understand how ones who know what the org truly is would continue to be an active jw.

  i'm not talking about the "faders"- those with an actual plan to get out as painlessly as possible.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  bigmac

  how many of you would just love to wake up tomorrow and say

  I'M NOT A JW ANYMORE !

  you would?

  then WAKE UP
• 
  23

  question for those with husbands/wives in the borg

  by Evidently Apostate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how do you respond when they question your enlightenment?

  do you find yourself holding back explaining specific doctrinal flaws or let it fly both barrels?

  i know we want our loved one to see things for what they are but even a tactfull response will cause the borg teachings to take over and everything becomes an absolute with my wife.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  bigmac

  "At the core, a believing mate does not trust the apostate mate, subjects must be avoided, communication becomes limited, social lives become separate ... how does a marriage survive that? If you do hold on to the marriage, what kind of a marriage is it?"

  in my case, in 1980 i was declared an apostate, & this accelerated my wifes efforts to get a divorce, & i gave her grounds to get a scriptural one.

  things turned out OK for both of us though: i married someone else & had 24 years together, till "death did us part"

  i ve since married for the 3rd time.

  my first wife also remarried, & as far as i know, still is.
• 
  71

  I didn't even know i WAS an apostate!

  by GrandmaJones in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am currently just sick with grief.

  i can't believe this is happening to me.

  all the jokes i've made about me never "falling out of the truth" and self confidence about my spirituality.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  bigmac

  i was raised from pre-teens as a JW child, getting baptised at 14.

  in my early 20's, having been a servant & a regular pioneer, i realised i simply didn't believe in any god, & as my wife was expecting our first child, i told the overseer i would allow a blood transfusion if needed.

  the overseer told me to "back away" from the religion untill i got my thinking straight.

  3 years later i resigned (verbally)--this was after a committee meeting called after someone had reported me for saying something out of keeping. the committee decided there was no case to answer, but i was glad to resign anyway.

  i then made the mistake of occasionally attending meetings--like the memorial, special talks etc., to appease my nagging spouse.

  this state of affairs went on for a few years until i did have an affair with one of the sisters

  she was disfellowshipped, but in my ( obvious ) absence it was announced that as i was not a JW i could not be disfellowsipped

  so they announced i was an apostate instead!--for adultery????

  when i found out about this, i was (1) delighted they acknowledged my non-jw status

  & (2) puzzled as to what it meant to be "apostate"---one told me it meant i had gone to another religion ( as if that one wasn't enough for 1 lifetime )

  someone else said it was because i was preaching against the religion ( thats a new name for what i was doing! )

  this happened in 1980

  so for nearly half my life ive been a happy apostate-----but my kids have shunned me since they were old enough to make their choice

  you pay a high price to be a JW---but you only find the real cost when you leave.
• 
  422

  Lady Lee- who are you, and what's YOUR story?

  by theMadJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since they have fingered you as a mod, you should have a very interesting tale to tell; please do!.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  bigmac

  @cantleave: quadrophenia!
• 
  67

  When will the crashing and burning of this organization begin?

  by easyreader1970 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as i see it, there are three looming threats that all have the potential - individually or combined - to bring the wbts to its knees, at least in the united states, anyway.. 1. youth retention.

  the young people aren't buying it.

  the watchtower will argue that faithless young people are giving in to demonic persuasion and leaving the truth.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  bigmac

  believing the watchtower society will collapse any time soon is about as likely as their claim that Armageddon is imminent.

  there is the key: take away the fear--armageddon--& the reason to be a JW goes away

  so

  no armageddon=no watchtower society

  just no point

  ( just my opinion )
• 
  2

  DF'd ones who still believe they are JW

  by bigmac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i wonder how many disfellowshipped ones there are out there who still believe or claim to be jw, but know they cant get re-instated for whatever reason?.

  obvious examples being those in a loving relationship but not able to marry.. i suppose we will never know, it being unlikely they would be reading this site, probably regarding it as apostate.. what a lonely place they must be in..

  1. 
  2. 
• 

  bigmac

  I wonder how many disfellowshipped ones there are out there who still believe or claim to be JW, but know they cant get re-instated for whatever reason?

  obvious examples being those in a loving relationship but not able to marry.

  I suppose we will never know, it being unlikely they would be reading this site, probably regarding it as apostate.

  what a lonely place they must be in.
• 
  5

  "weak" witnesses

  by bigmac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i was an active jw, 40 -odd years ago in the uk, in the 2 congs i went to, we had a fair number of brothers privately called "weak".

  this was implied if a bro ( or sis )didn't attend most meetings, answer up, do field service, talks etc.. they weren't reprooved for this ( as far as i know ) but "marked" so to speak'.

  is this still the case?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  bigmac

  when i was an active jw, 40 -odd years ago in the UK, in the 2 congs i went to, we had a fair number of brothers privately called "weak"

  this was implied if a bro ( or sis )didn't attend most meetings, answer up, do field service, talks etc.

  they weren't reprooved for this ( as far as i know ) but "marked" so to speak'

  is this still the case? if so would anyone care to venture an educated guess what the % is of "weak" ones in the religion?
• 
  40

  I'm new today !!!! 43 years in and now out 15 months!!!!

  by Hairyhegoat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what went on in my old congregation will shock you all !!!

  as it's late i will post asap and leave nothing out!!!.

  ps.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  bigmac

  maybe that door should be signposted in bold letters

  EMERGENCY EXIT