Posts by Joliette

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'We only do what the BIBLE says' --- Separating the Bible from the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of NYC

by Joliette in

i'm in the dawn of my research, and the #1 thing that i am trying to do, is separate the bible from the watchtower and bible and track society.. me and my dad got into a dicussion, and he said that the witnesses are only doing what the bible says.

he said to read the bible (especially the new testament) and it would all come clear to me, why jehovah's witnesses are the truth.

i said 'then what about all of the misleading, and predictions that never came true?

Joliette

Awwww, thanks ;)

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So...the bible doesnt say to follow the faithful and discreet slave...CORRECT?

by Joliette in

if i'm not mistaken, there is no bible verse to support following the 'faithful and discreet' slave?.

am i correct?

i know i have to research this, but to give me a jumpstart...?.

Joliette

Wow...this is some deep stuff.

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'We only do what the BIBLE says' --- Separating the Bible from the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of NYC

by Joliette in

i'm in the dawn of my research, and the #1 thing that i am trying to do, is separate the bible from the watchtower and bible and track society.. me and my dad got into a dicussion, and he said that the witnesses are only doing what the bible says.

he said to read the bible (especially the new testament) and it would all come clear to me, why jehovah's witnesses are the truth.

i said 'then what about all of the misleading, and predictions that never came true?

Joliette

I always thought something about the memorial seemed a little weird to me.

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So...the bible doesnt say to follow the faithful and discreet slave...CORRECT?

by Joliette in

if i'm not mistaken, there is no bible verse to support following the 'faithful and discreet' slave?.

am i correct?

i know i have to research this, but to give me a jumpstart...?.

Joliette

So...no 'following the faithful and discreet slave?'

I ask this because at a service meeting like a month ago, a young ministerial servant gave a comment saying that we need to follow the faithful and discreet slave. When they say to do something, we shouldnt question it, but just do it.

In my mind, I was like 'What in the blue sky?' What the heck are they gonna ask us to do?

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So...the bible doesnt say to follow the faithful and discreet slave...CORRECT?

by Joliette in

if i'm not mistaken, there is no bible verse to support following the 'faithful and discreet' slave?.

am i correct?

i know i have to research this, but to give me a jumpstart...?.

Joliette

If I'm not mistaken, there is no bible verse to support following the 'Faithful and Discreet' slave?

Am I correct? I know I have to research this, but to give me a jumpstart...?

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'We only do what the BIBLE says' --- Separating the Bible from the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of NYC

by Joliette in

i'm in the dawn of my research, and the #1 thing that i am trying to do, is separate the bible from the watchtower and bible and track society.. me and my dad got into a dicussion, and he said that the witnesses are only doing what the bible says.

he said to read the bible (especially the new testament) and it would all come clear to me, why jehovah's witnesses are the truth.

i said 'then what about all of the misleading, and predictions that never came true?

Joliette

My daddy was raised a baptist, and he thinks all chruches are false (isnt that a bit unfair to come to EVERY conclusion about every chruch? Especially when you went to ONE chruch). I tried to explain to him, that people think things about the Jehovah's Witnesses that arent true (like most people think Jehovah's Witnesses arent christians, that they reject the Christ), but the witnesses dont want people coming to that conclusions about them. So, its okay for the witnesses to come to conclusion about other reglions? (ex: The watchtower article 'Have you examined your religion?). I cant stand how hypocritcal that is. The rank and file is just a spawn of the WTBTS.

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'We only do what the BIBLE says' --- Separating the Bible from the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of NYC

by Joliette in

i'm in the dawn of my research, and the #1 thing that i am trying to do, is separate the bible from the watchtower and bible and track society.. me and my dad got into a dicussion, and he said that the witnesses are only doing what the bible says.

he said to read the bible (especially the new testament) and it would all come clear to me, why jehovah's witnesses are the truth.

i said 'then what about all of the misleading, and predictions that never came true?

Joliette

I'm in the dawn of my research, and the #1 thing that I am trying to do, is separate the bible from the watchtower and bible and track society.

Me and my dad got into a dicussion, and he said that the Witnesses are only doing what the bible says. He said to read the bible (especially the new testament) and it would all come clear to me, why Jehovah's Witnesses are the truth. I said 'then what about all of the misleading, and predictions that never came true?' He said that those people that were mislead by dates and predictions were following man (Judge Rutherford, Fred Franz, etc) (, and not the bible, and if they mislead, then it was there own fault (the rank and file witnesses).( I couldnt help but think of all the people who lost so many things because of the WTBTS) He said that number 1 thing that we need to do, is listen and read the bible, and it would all come clear to us (I was thinking, yeah, its all come clear to me LOL). I was, okay, then if its all about the bible, then why are there other publications (such as the watchtower, awake, bible aides, etc? Basically me trying to 'hint' to him that its a business) He said, the purpose of these are to help people understand the bible better (since people are busy, and dont have time to do 'heavy' bible research), and to relate to them on a current level, and to have them look up certain things in there own bible, and to come to there own understanding. I said, once again, if its ALL ABOUT THE BIBLE then why do we have Watchtowers and Awakes? He repeated the same thing. He also said that the WTBTS is a non-profit organization, and that he believes, without a shadow of a doubt, that this is the truth, and thats its not all about money (ha ha, yeah right).

I'm trying to help my parents understand that if something is the truth, if these men were inspired by God, then why would they mislead people, and then say the people who were mislead and bitter and evetually left, were apostate? And why are most so called apostates former Jehovah's Witnesses? MOST PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN WITNESSES, NOT TO SOUND MEAN, DONT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!!! THEY CARE MORE ABOUT THERE LIFE AND WHATS GOING ON WITH THEM. The main thing, is that, for the first time in my life, I'm trying to seperate the bible from the Jehovah's Witnesses and WTBTS. Did any of you do this in your research? Did you research both inside and outside the religion?

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