Can't wait to see the names of the players. Like Olympia Dukakis said in Steel Magnolias: If you can't say something nice, come sit by me!"
No, all kidding aside, looking forward to hearing "More Tales of the Gritty".
JWinSF
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Part 14: (Previews)
by Amazing ini am not trying to create too much suspense, but i decided to take a day off from the pc.
but ... wait ... there's more !!!.
part 14: the last shedherding visit: is going to be the most exciting of all.
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Pagan & Wiccan, Ancient Wisdom
by Celtic inbeing a christian pagan i though i'd ask of others here, what ancient wisdom do you know of, that really helps you to understand the world around us, our inter-relationships amongst kindred spirits?.
would you like to share?.
i have a poem that sums it up that i wrote back in april of '95 just four weeks after being df'ed.. will post it below.. peace and whatknot, a celticknot indeed.. [email protected].
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Can you explain how one can be a Christian and a Wiccan? Aren't they kinda at cross-purposes? BTW, I'm not Wiccan, but identify with that and the American Indian forms of faith much more than anything else.
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WARNING - THE WTBS CAN LOCATE YOU
by Jim Dee inguys and girls.
the society have now instituted carnivore - their data tracking system installed into the uk bethel to track all apostate email and activity.
the reason is the amount of "leaks" of confidential mail and facts.. they have tried and failed with legal blocking, so now they are plugging the leaks, these guys were brought into mill hill late last year after the leak of the june 1 letter.. their method is to use message boards and chat rooms for the "disaffected" and get them to go to other "society monitored" web sites.
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Like Princess Leia said in Star Wars: "The more you tighten your grip, the faster we'll slip through your fingers."
They're running scared. This won't help them. It will backfire on them in the end.
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Average age of apostates survey.
by sleepy ini thought it might be a good idea to find out at what age or after how long we descided to leave the watchtower.. prehaps we my find a patern in it which we could use .. i think what we need to know are ,.
1.age you left the watchtower.
(or age you found out it was wrong).
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Left at age 45 [couldn't reconcile my being gay with "The Truth", within a few months of deciding to leave, I discovered that it wasn't the truth.
Baptized at 22 [started seriously studying at age 18 with my very active uncle, felt inwardly condemned and not worthy of "The Truth" knowing that I was homosexual]
Brought up around it by an inactive mother
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What are the three best things you did in life?
by Skeptic inin another thread, i stated the three best things i ever did with my life, but i thought the topic would make a good thread.. what are the three best things you did in your life?.
mine are:.
third best: divorcing my first wife.
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Listed from in descending order of importance:
1. Coming out
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Damn the Organization
by JWinSF inafter all, i've read franz's books and have seen all too often the way jws' normal familial emotions are rendered dead, inactive when one of their family members leaves the religion either through being dfd or by daing.. back in october 2001 i sent two gifts to my uncle and aunt in detroit.
they stopped having contact with me except for a thank-you letter when i did a similar thing about one year previously.
i know that this recent gift was received as the on line ups tracking link showed the recipient's last name.
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Thanks everyone for your kind words of support.
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Damn the Organization
by JWinSF inafter all, i've read franz's books and have seen all too often the way jws' normal familial emotions are rendered dead, inactive when one of their family members leaves the religion either through being dfd or by daing.. back in october 2001 i sent two gifts to my uncle and aunt in detroit.
they stopped having contact with me except for a thank-you letter when i did a similar thing about one year previously.
i know that this recent gift was received as the on line ups tracking link showed the recipient's last name.
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I know that I should know better. After all, I've read Franz's books and have seen all too often the way JWs' normal familial emotions are rendered dead, inactive when one of their family members leaves the religion either through being DFd or by DAing.
Back in October 2001 I sent two gifts to my Uncle and Aunt in Detroit. They stopped having contact with me except for a thank-you letter when I did a similar thing about one year previously. I know that this recent gift was received as the on line UPS tracking link showed the recipient's last name. It was theirs. [The tracking doesn't show the first names or initials.]
Today, I decided to do some checking on family lineage. For some reason, I decided to plug in my Uncle's name on a social security records database. I found my Uncle. [First, last name, middle initial, date of birth, and zip code all matched.] What also was there was his date of death, May 10, 2001. Coincidentally that was also my deceased mother's birth date.
My uncle became closer to me than my own father, who left our house when I was in high school. It was my uncle who studied with me when I was 18 [my mother was an inactive JW]. His wife, whom he married after I left Michigan, was also a friend of our family. I loved her as well. After all that had been passed, she could've at least given me the common courtesy to let me know that he had passed away five months earlier.
Chalk it up to another heartless characteristic of the JW religion.
Sorry for venting.
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Will you go to the memorial
by freeborg ini have never missed a memorial in 20 years of being a jw, but this year will be the first one i miss because i refuse to set foot in any kingdom hall.
i was wondering how many that post here will attend the memorial and if so why?.
do you feel pressured into going by family or friends?.
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puffsrule: I really like your pic! How "Jessica Rabbit".
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Who are still in and who has left the JW Org? Why?
by STRUGGLE ingood morning!.
hi was just wondering who are still active in the organization and do you have doubts?
those of you who have left, briefly what made you leave, do you have any regrets, and was it hard making new friends?.
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I decided to DA in January 1994 due to my sexual orientation. However, before actually DAing, a friend told me about Raymond Franz's books. I read them. It was then that I knew that even if I was straight, I would still leave the JWs. How could I remain in such a duplicitous religion?
I've never regretted leaving the JWs. And, contrary to the predictions of the JWs [a scare tactic to keep others within the walls of the Organization], my life did not unravel. Instead, it became much better. Oh, sure, there were a few bumps along the way. But, these are bumps that I learned from. The positives of leaving far outweighed the negatives of staying.
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Will you go to the memorial
by freeborg ini have never missed a memorial in 20 years of being a jw, but this year will be the first one i miss because i refuse to set foot in any kingdom hall.
i was wondering how many that post here will attend the memorial and if so why?.
do you feel pressured into going by family or friends?.
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JWinSF
No plans at the present for attending. However a few years back I went to my home Congregation. It was an affirmation for me: That I could enter the KH and know that the JWs had no residual control on me. I was able to speak with a few other non-JWs who went to the Memorial merely to please other family members. It was a real hoot. I could speak freely with them [and did] while the nearby JWs could only listen and not respond. One young man who was the grandson of my closest JW friend and I chatted extensively, including my being gay and going to gay bars/clubs in San Francisco. I think a few JW pacemakers flickered upon hearing that.
The following year, some other ex-JWs also wanted to do the same, so I went along for "moral support" to a congregation in South San Francisco.
But, for me, I have no need to go back. I'll go if someone else wants to go and needs some support. But, again, for me, nope. I don't plug into Christianity, let alone the JWs.