When the queen or any of the other inbreds curtsey to me i will curtsey to them. Right after I give them a swift kick between the legs.
jamesmahon
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New Light...Letter to BOE...Curtsey protocal
by Momma-Tossed-Me inthe governing body has now deemed it appropriate for sisters to curtsey when any member of the gb is present!
they are in fact princes pro tem so it is only good form.
fun on a monday..
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Real Estate questions
by Jim_TX ini couldn't decide which section best fit this - so decided to put it here.
i apologize if i am wrong.. .
i am hoping to get information / advice from someone on here that is a real estate guru.. i own a small piece of land in the hill country.
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Agree with James_woods (hmm, makes me feel a bit sick but sure he feels the same). If other blocks have gone for more and she is after the 'set' then it may be worth a lot more to her - maybe more than to anyone else. You are thinking what you want to do with the money. Just work out how much you need to do that and see whether that is what she will offer.
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Why are religious people scared of atheists?
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[endif]just read bublegum's post and was going to post there but realised it would be off topic.. it got me thinking - as did some of the other atheist threads - why are religious people scared or atheists?
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Exactly. I suspect you might be right that when I think of the JWs I know that more fall into the camp of being scared to test their faith than not.
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[endif]just read bublegum's post and was going to post there but realised it would be off topic.. it got me thinking - as did some of the other atheist threads - why are religious people scared or atheists?
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Sab
On one of your other posts you said 'flipping' as well as in 'flipping heck' so just assumed you were a Brit. My apologies (although they may not be needed )
OGD. Very good post. I 'celebrate' christmas but enjoy all the various cultural influences going back thousands of years that links you to the past.
I would be surprised if you would find any sane non-believer that wanted to change a believer unless they thought that belief was causing genuine harm or the believer was trying to force their views onto them. I think on a personal level most believers and non-believers get on great. The problems arise when society has to make decisions on how to function. How do we educate our children? Gay marriage? Abortion? Euthanasia? I think most non-believers are socially liberal even if they are economically conservative and if we feel an individuals' right to do as they please is threatened by people saying that god wants the world to be a certain way it just gets on our goat. Most of the time we all get on just fine really and are accepting. Accepting someone's belief is the easy part. Letting them decide how you or anyone else is allowed to live their life is the difficult bit. In this regard I don't think that non-believers through or because of their non-belief try to tell other people how to live their lives. Or force it into law.
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[endif]just read bublegum's post and was going to post there but realised it would be off topic.. it got me thinking - as did some of the other atheist threads - why are religious people scared or atheists?
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Talesin
I do agree that there are certainly many JW members (I will not use rank and file in the future if I remember) that don't want to open the box of their own disbelief and so steer away from apostates. I have two brothers who are in and one certainly falls into that camp. But the other has told me that he is a JW to the very soul of his being (which is interesting because they don't believe in a soul but still) and nothing could ever sway him from his faith.
It is interesting that on this board certainly most of those (or certainly the vocal majority) that leave the witnesses seem to lose their belief in god if not instantly than over time. I know I went through the phases of "they have it more right than other religions" to "it is just as much rubbish as other religions. Still believe in god though" to finally "nope, no god actually".
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[endif]just read bublegum's post and was going to post there but realised it would be off topic.. it got me thinking - as did some of the other atheist threads - why are religious people scared or atheists?
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Really cofty - I'm in Coldingham. Vomiting bug is going around here as well. I have probably bumped into you in Morrisons and never realised it. Small world. We should meet up and have an awkward conversation. Preferably after you have stopped being sick.
Lozhasleft
I think you have put well where the problem is as has been suggested by other posters. It comes down to this faith thing. You see, I don't think non-believers have 'faith' in science and we find it annoying that a rational thought process that holds no idea as sacrid and can be debunked with evidence is seen as the same as 'faith' that can never be proven wrong in the mind of the believer. I have faith in nothing becuase it is a word that just means nothing to me. I look at evidence. From that I reach a conclusion with an implicit probabilty.
The moon is round and is not made of cheese. I have never been but I can see it as a circle in the sky. Is it a rock? Well, there is evidence I can see and touch but until I go there myself I would never be sure. But with the available evidence I conclude that it is most likely round and a rock. I don't have faith this is the case. If someone fired a rocket into it and it exploded showering the earth with cheese I will change my conclusion. I guess I just don't get faith that says no matter the evidence brought I will continue to believe what I do. That just seems irrational.
Most non-believers like to continually question things which is why they end up as non-believers I suspect. Believers perhaps misinterpret this constant questioning as a challenge as they are happy with the world view their faith is built on. We get cross because we think that people with a religious faith are no longer searching for answers perhaps and also trying to give the answers to other people and stop them thinking for themselves. The irony of course is that this is exactly what religious people think atheists are doing.
Anyway, don't want to turn this into a bashing thread one way or the other. Just really interested in where the anger and fear (if there is fear) comes from so thanks for your contribution.
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Real Estate questions
by Jim_TX ini couldn't decide which section best fit this - so decided to put it here.
i apologize if i am wrong.. .
i am hoping to get information / advice from someone on here that is a real estate guru.. i own a small piece of land in the hill country.
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But they are only making a killing if someone would actually pay $16k for it. I had a cottage on the market last year. Valued at £160k. Six months later loads of viewings and everyone said it was overpriced. Lowered it to £130k and still hardly any interest. A market appraisal really means very little.
A house/block of land is worth the highest that one person is willing and able to pay for it (or what a person is willing to sell it for if it is greater - but then they have the highest market valuation and will own it until that valuation falls). The best an appraisal can ever be is what someone who has no intention of buying the land thinks someone else may pay for it. It is information that can help a negotiation but cannot make someone who does not value it at the appraisal value pay anymore than they are willing and able to pay for it. Many a sale falls through because both buyer and seller are not honest about their valuations as both are being greedy.
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[endif]just read bublegum's post and was going to post there but realised it would be off topic.. it got me thinking - as did some of the other atheist threads - why are religious people scared or atheists?
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Aye, tough indeed. Just read one of your threads from a couple of years back and sounds like you had similar (abeit worse) problems.
What is with the 'aye' btw? Where in UK you from?
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Real Estate questions
by Jim_TX ini couldn't decide which section best fit this - so decided to put it here.
i apologize if i am wrong.. .
i am hoping to get information / advice from someone on here that is a real estate guru.. i own a small piece of land in the hill country.
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Not a real estate agent but an economist and might be able to help.
It comes down to your own personal supply curve for that plot of land and what you think the demand curve is.
In reality the supply curve is simple because there is only one plot of land and a price below which you will not sell it.
The demand curve is trickier. You know at least one person values the block at $6k (you can ignore the appraisal as the appraiser is not really a potential buyer). This might be the peak that anyone would pay for the block. Is there any other information on similar plots that have sold nearby that might suggest that blocks have sold for more (or less)? What is the potential purchaser wanting to use it for? Are they going to build on it? If so this would raise the value of the block to them. If they are just going to use it for fishing and camping then maybe it may not be worth more to them than what they are offering.
I think the thing people get wrong with selling property is not having the figure in their head at which point they would be happier with the money than the property. They focus too much on the demand curve (of which you only have limited information) and ignore the supply curve (for which you have complete information).
If I was you I would avoid real estate agents if you can. If $6k is not enough then work out in your head what is enough for you. Gather what information you can as to why the market should pay this price. Then present it to the potential purchaser and see whether they meet your valuation. If having $6k would make you happier than owning the block of land then take the $6k, especially if the information you have is that it will not sell for more than this.
Keep in mind that this value may be higher than the purchaser or anyone else is willing to pay. But that is fine. You just value the land more than anyone else and you own it so be happy.
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[endif]just read bublegum's post and was going to post there but realised it would be off topic.. it got me thinking - as did some of the other atheist threads - why are religious people scared or atheists?
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Think the organisation is scared of apostates for that reason, but disagree that your rank and file member is scared of apostates for the same reason. In any case I think most religious people live on faith anyway and are quite happy doing so. Indeed it is the lack of faith that non-believers have that probably annoys believers so much. And faith being what it is the more it is challenged I suspect the stronger it gets (for some people anyways)