I grew up in a mining community in the North of England so we didn't see many faces that were not white so think racism was pretty rife in the whole town. The demeaning of gay people was pretty something though. When you have young children calling each other poofs and no one blinks an eyelid save to stop them arguing. No part of the world apparently - just use all their insults until the world says it isn't appropriate.
jamesmahon
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Words that were ok to use as a witness
by jamesmahon inthis follows on from the other thread on michael jackson and an earlier one this morning.
sufficiently different to start a new thread i thought though.. on the mj thread i had a bit of a poke at glander and used a load of anti-gay terms.
what i thought was interesting was that they were all terms that i used to use as a witness.
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How do I hear/feel God?
by doinmypart inthis is a serious question.. i know people that hear/feel god (and see postings about people's experiences), but i have not experienced this.
i have never heard anything audibly (or otherwise) nor "felt" anything inwardly.. i've prayed, read, quieted my thoughts, etc...but still nothing..
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jamesmahon
Oh no. Not another god not to believe in. Bloody hell. Maybe it really is like Small Gods? (sorry for the non-Discworld readers here)
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Words that were ok to use as a witness
by jamesmahon inthis follows on from the other thread on michael jackson and an earlier one this morning.
sufficiently different to start a new thread i thought though.. on the mj thread i had a bit of a poke at glander and used a load of anti-gay terms.
what i thought was interesting was that they were all terms that i used to use as a witness.
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jamesmahon
Glander - I guess it depends on how nasty you view the term. I heard people shouting it at my brother, usually prefixed with some nice anglo saxon. But I understand that in some parts of the world it is not so bad.
I remember when my twin brother came back from Australia I took him around to see my rugby pals and he was calling them a bunch of faggots in jest. Really (he was a witness btw). But it was a really mild insult in the part of australia we lived and don't think it even meant a homosexual. It can be a minefield. I think Talesin was right to call him out - maybe not so much for the term but in what relevance it had to any of the preceding discussion. I still don't get the joke but that doesn't mean there isn't an ironic one that is above my head.
Paulnotsaul. Yeah, the more I think about it the weirder it is. We were allowed to say "good grief" (is that an oxymoron or what) and 'flippin heck' but not 'flaming hell' even though they are the same. Ah that Jehovah. It is all about the semantics.
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How do I hear/feel God?
by doinmypart inthis is a serious question.. i know people that hear/feel god (and see postings about people's experiences), but i have not experienced this.
i have never heard anything audibly (or otherwise) nor "felt" anything inwardly.. i've prayed, read, quieted my thoughts, etc...but still nothing..
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jamesmahon
Cofty - wow. Glad I'm not a believer. I wish I could say "I stopped believing by going back to the original greek and gaining a deep understanding about what really is happening in the bible" rather than "I stopped believing because god is really boring and trying to understand 2000 year old metaphors gives me a headache. But mostly it is boring".
Cantleave. I shouldn't laugh but there is something about the term 'shithead' that makes me chortle. Just think of it for a moment, and the life a poor shithead must lead. In a crowded room if anyone thinks 'what is that smell?' everyone is going to look at him. And the mess when he sneezes... Worthy of three exclaimation marks as well.
If the Daily Mail editor is reading this the headline tomorrow will be "Experts say god has a small penis and excrement for a head. And he causes cancer" and will reference your post about 13 paras in. But then I guess it is only a small step from being a Daily Mail reader to contributor.
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How do I hear/feel God?
by doinmypart inthis is a serious question.. i know people that hear/feel god (and see postings about people's experiences), but i have not experienced this.
i have never heard anything audibly (or otherwise) nor "felt" anything inwardly.. i've prayed, read, quieted my thoughts, etc...but still nothing..
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jamesmahon
Genesis 2:7
Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.
No. Nothing about an everlasting spirit there.
Romans 3:9
What shall we conclude then? Do we have any advantage? Not at all! For we have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under the power of sin.
? So everyone sins. See nothing about them being 'confined under sin' here.
Genesis 3:24
So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubim, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way of the tree of life.
No mention of being born of holy spirit here.
1 Kings 11:1-3
King Solomon, however, loved many foreign women besides Pharaoh’s daughter—Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians and Hittites. 2 They were from nations about which the Lord had told the Israelites, “You must not intermarry with them, because they will surely turn your hearts after their gods.” Nevertheless, Solomon held fast to them in love. 3 He had seven hundred wives of royal birth and three hundred concubines, and his wives led him astray
Maybe having to 'service' one thousand women led him astray. Nice to see that god puts such a high value on both monogamy and, lets face it, women.
1 Peter 1:2
who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to be obedient to Jesus Christ and sprinkled with his blood:
Grace and peace be yours in abundance.
Chosen according to foreknowledge? Ah, nice calvinistic view of the world then. Makes no difference what anyone does because we are fated to be chosen or not. Thanks god. Genuine love that.
No. Sorry, don't see any loving god in any of those passages.
And what about Cofty's original point about when the idea of Satan originated?
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How do I hear/feel God?
by doinmypart inthis is a serious question.. i know people that hear/feel god (and see postings about people's experiences), but i have not experienced this.
i have never heard anything audibly (or otherwise) nor "felt" anything inwardly.. i've prayed, read, quieted my thoughts, etc...but still nothing..
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Words that were ok to use as a witness
by jamesmahon inthis follows on from the other thread on michael jackson and an earlier one this morning.
sufficiently different to start a new thread i thought though.. on the mj thread i had a bit of a poke at glander and used a load of anti-gay terms.
what i thought was interesting was that they were all terms that i used to use as a witness.
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jamesmahon
I wasn't having a go at you Glander but thought the whole thing raised some interesting things about words that we did use/still use. I guess it was that J Woods had not just said 'yup, got that one wrong. Sorry - was meant to be a joke but was a bit tasteless". Rather, the implication was that we were all wrong for not getting the joke and to get off your high horses. Just annoyed me a bit which is why I tried to ram it home a little.
I must admit whilst if a group wants to take ownership of a word like 'queer' then fair enough but like you it still makes me feel uncomfortable when anyone uses it. I think that is because a 'group' cannot take ownership for everyone in that 'group' - in fact it perpetuates a group mentality on individuals that may not want to be thought of as part of a group at all. Perhaps.
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How do I hear/feel God?
by doinmypart inthis is a serious question.. i know people that hear/feel god (and see postings about people's experiences), but i have not experienced this.
i have never heard anything audibly (or otherwise) nor "felt" anything inwardly.. i've prayed, read, quieted my thoughts, etc...but still nothing..
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jamesmahon
If she did she isn't answering Cofty.
Michelle - 'made' is past tense. Is Satan able to 'make' his own choices now and what if he suddenly decided "You know what, this god person is right after all. Soz"
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How do I hear/feel God?
by doinmypart inthis is a serious question.. i know people that hear/feel god (and see postings about people's experiences), but i have not experienced this.
i have never heard anything audibly (or otherwise) nor "felt" anything inwardly.. i've prayed, read, quieted my thoughts, etc...but still nothing..
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jamesmahon
So can Satan not make his own choices? And what about the rest of Cofty's post?
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Anybody here a baseball fan?
by MrFreeze inso, is anybody here a baseball fan?
i can understand why people think it is boring.
i love it though.
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jamesmahon
Got into it when I lived in Maine. Redsox of course. Not cricket but not a bad little game...