the scriptures attest that adam was made is made in god's image, "after his likeness.
" and seth was in adam's "own likeness, after his image.
" the question becomes: since we're all primates, what does this tell us about jehovah?
If, for the sake of arguement, an almighty God does exist, he would to have exist outside of the space/time continuum where the laws of physics simply wouldn't apply. If physical laws do not appy, how could there be physical form? Discussion of God's physical form would be then completely irrelelavant.
Any discussion of God's physical form is thus completely assinine, infantile, inconsequential and insulting to anyone's intelligence.
NEXT!
V665
do you guy know any witnesses that married for privilege?
for example the lowly male publisher married the c.o.t.b.o.e daughter and quickly move up the ranks.
another example is that the witness girl that only date or marries up( only dates m.s,elders,ex-bethelites,or pioneers ).. .
pirata: I have heard brothers say that they will only marry pioneers and sisters say that they will only marry MS or Elder. However, it didn't seem to be for prestige. It was because this position helped to show the other marriage mates "spirituality".
Aw, come on! Spirituality/Pretige; what's the difference? It's the same meaninigless snob appeal.
V665
i was a born in.
but when i was born i knew nothing.
i had no deity nor i knew what a god was therefore i was atheist.
One more... You say atheism is a zero point. It isn't zero, it's the polar opposite of belief in God, it's a negative, it's anti-God. Think of belief in God, or lack of, as positive and negative integers on a line. Those with a strong belief in God score highly on the positive side of the number line while those who are militantly anti-God score highly on the negative side of things while agnostics pretty well sit around the zero. There of course is a spectrum of belief in between.
We always see theists and a-theists at each others throats while agnostics sit quietly on the sidelines shaking their heads. I've never heard of a militant agnostic, have you? Lots of militant a-theists though. Denying that a-theism is anti-God (minus God) is as ridiculous as denying that negative integers exist in the field of mathematics. It appears you don't entirely know what you profess to believe or the kinds of people you profess to share your beliefs with.
V665
i was a born in.
but when i was born i knew nothing.
i had no deity nor i knew what a god was therefore i was atheist.
That's the just pot calling the kettle black, CJ. Atheists are equally as dismissive and equally as ignorant as those taking the polar opposite view of things. No one has a monopoly on the truth. There's still too much for all of mankind to learn for either side to claim intellectual victory. The debate may NEVER be settled, no matter how much a majority of atheists in their smugness opine to the contrary. Atheists have no right to claim that they are in any way morally or intellectually superior and vice versa. Thus one cannot make the specious claim that theists beliefs are infantile and then turn around and say that everyone is born an atheist. You can't have it both ways. There has to be a intellectual progression from a zero point, a blank slate, to one either viewpoint or another and atheism is not it. Agnosticism seems to fit that role better.
I hope there's no hard feelings.
V665
i was a born in.
but when i was born i knew nothing.
i had no deity nor i knew what a god was therefore i was atheist.
Your counter-arguement is weak... It appears that I have you in the crushing grip of my logic...
V665
this is a story that is very hard for me to tell.
as a matter of fact, this is really one of the only times i've told this story.
a few years back, i met a girl while at the local community college.
Wow... A second hand casualty of the WTS policies that normally drive ones on the inside mad. How's that for collateral damage.
Man. I'm so sorry to hear that. That's just awful. I can't even imagine the guilt you must feel... Again, I'm so sorry. I hope you can eventually move beyond beating yourself up for this. Really, you know who's fault it truly is. (A clue: It's a group of grumpy, sadistic old men wearing cheap suits in Brooklyn.) Like others have and will continue to advise you; get away and stay away from the borg. Staying close to them will... mess... you... up. These people are toxic. Make new friends on the outside, ASAP.
Take care,
V665
i was a born in.
but when i was born i knew nothing.
i had no deity nor i knew what a god was therefore i was atheist.
Soooooo... riddle me this, cyberjesus. If you say that we were all born atheists, does that mean that if one returns to such a belief that atheism is an infantile state of mind?
Just wondering. (I had to have it!)
V665
wt november 15, 2010 young ones targeted.
the articles to be studied in january include:.
young ones be guided by gods word.
What should you do if you have secretly been engaging in conduct that you know to be wrong? Remember, “He that is covering over his transgressions will not succeed, but he that is confessing and leaving them will be shown mercy.” How unwise it would be to continue in a wrong course and “be grieving God’s holy spirit”! You really owe it to God, to your parents, and to yourself to confess any wrongdoing. Admittedly, this may result in some embarrassment and perhaps some unpleasant consequences.
How unwise it would be to confess to the elders! There is no holy spirit guiding THEM. You owe it to no one. Anyone dumb enough to do this has no idea what kinds of verbal and emotional abuse they're in for at the hands of these incompetent control freaks. To say one will experience "unpleasant consequenses" doesn't quite cover it.
Baptism is not a contract that restrains you from doing things that you would secretly like to do. Baptism is an important step for those who want to be saved. Whatever reasons there are for your hesitation to get baptized, you need to resolve such issues and concerns.
Baptism IS a contract that restrains you. It keeps you in a prison you cannot smell or taste or touch. A prison for your mind. (to quote "The Matrix") Whatever reasons there are for your hesitation to get baptized, heed them! Salvation is when you have escaped from life with the borg.
V665
i love psychedelic music.
some of my favorites include the beatles' "blue jay way", .
the beastie boys' "namaste",.
are west coast canadians a bit shy or what!
seems like usa has meet-ups and groups all over.
sounds like a lot of fun!
Hi all,
In case you missed it, clarity moved futher discussion about the get-together(s) to the thread below under Apostafests & Get-togethers for the sake of more privacy:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/meetups/197827/1/Making-Friends-in-west-coast-B-C
If anyone lives in the lower mainland can lend a hand, let us know via PM. It can't be just a one man/woman show. Thanks all.
V665
PS: ESTEE you have a PM.
