Posts by ABibleStudent

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If You Had 5 minutes to Create Doubt

by roxanesophia in

i regularly encounter jw's i knew while studying and it kills me that they would likely not listen long enough for me to tell them the truth about the truth.

my mother says "don't even bother.

it's like finding out you were adopted.

ABibleStudent

nateb - I always comment on how tired and exhausted they look. This prompts them to vent about the rigorous JW schedule. Then I ask if they're happy. Invariably they say yes. Then I say that's great and that's all that matters. Then I say just so you're not expecting the end to come in your lifetime and you're planning for a good long life you're on the right track. Then I wish them well and remind them that I'm available to them.

Hi roxanesophia, I agree with other posters who have said to avoid talking about doctrine with JWs. I like what nateb suggested because you might be able to reach a JW if you can get them to examine how they feel and that you are always available for them when they are feeling down. I would suggest that you have at least two different types of questions. One type of question(s) for when you meet a JW without a biblestudy and one for when a JW has a bible study. When a JW does not have a bible study, you could ask "Why are you still a JW?", if they give you the typical WTBTS' lines then say "Really, is that how you feel; I asked you about your personal feelings.", and then end the conversation with "I am always available for you when you want to talk about how you really feel." The other type of question(s) for when you meet a JW with a biblestudy, might be like what nateb wrote. When you talk with a JW with a bible study, you want to plant seeds of doubt in the bible study. Good-luck with planting roxanesophia!!

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

ABibleStudent

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Some snot nosed dubbie.....

by watersprout in

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friends

today carrot phoned really angry, one of his customers saw him and said ''oh carrot i haven't seen you in a while (carrot does window cleaning on a weekend to bump up wages.. gotta love being uneducated) i saw that younge man that used to work with you and i asked him if he had seen you and he told me that he was taking over your work, as you weren't doing it anymore''... carrot was like wtfrick!!!!

he explained to his customer that ''no, i am still your window cleaner and i will be round next week''... anyway the customer was really angry as carrot is very well respected by his customer base.

she said that she would be phoning this snot nosed dubbie and telling him she doesn't want him anywhere near her windows.... lol.

ABibleStudent

watersprout - I saw that younge man that used to work with you and I asked him if he had seen you and he told me that he was taking over your work, as you weren't doing it anymore''

Sounds like SND is elder, DO, or CO material. I am glad that he was caught in his lie.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

ABibleStudent

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A Letter to My Sons ... A Request for Help

by 00DAD in

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it has now been over two years since i was df'd.

in that time i have had limited contact with my 17 year old son, the younger, and almost no contact with my 20 year old.

the older boy was baptized 5 years ago and sadly the younger just recently took the plunge into the "pool-aid".

ABibleStudent

00DAD - My ultimate goals of such a letter would be twofold: for my sons to know that I always loved them without reservation, and that I hope they find the courage within themselves to do what I did and break free from the control of the WTBTS.

Hi 00DAD. I don't feel that one letter will achieve your goals. Instead of sending them one letter, send them emails with pictures of you doing fun things that they might enjoy, postcards from trips that you go on, and birthday cards. I know that they probably will reject all of your attempts to maintain contact with them, and that will show them your unconditional love for them. If you feel any regrets about how you treated them because you were a JW, you might also want to let them know how much you regreted what you did. In a few years they may have doubts, and they may seek out your advice because you showed them unconditional love and honesty.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

ABibleStudent

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I really want to go JW but..

by fortbethel in

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i've studied with like 30 diff denominations.

i really feel jw is best for me.

i think it's the 144,000 part & the once a year get together when they pass around the sacrament that bothers me most.

ABibleStudent

fortbethel - is the a pro or anti JW site?

Hi forbethel, instead of thinking of this as a pro or anti-JW site, how about thinking of it as a site that you can express your views without getting Df'ed by the WTBTS? Most people on this site are not against JWs and are against thought reform that is practised by the WTBTS.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

ABibleStudent

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I really want to go JW but..

by fortbethel in

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friends

i've studied with like 30 diff denominations.

i really feel jw is best for me.

i think it's the 144,000 part & the once a year get together when they pass around the sacrament that bothers me most.

ABibleStudent

Welcome fortbethel and what WTBTS doctrines work best for you compared with other religions? What are you looking for in a congregation? If you are a Christian, will you have problems following the teachings of the WTBTS instead of Jesus Christ, or will you have problems with the WTBTS trying to downplay the importance of Jesus Christ by saying that he may be the Archangel Micheal, why make that hypothesis.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you know,

ABibleStudent

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Greetings everyone

by MoneurMallard in

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hello everybody, i studied with the jehovah's about 10 years ago, was never baptized, never a publisher, never really did anything, went to a few of the watchtime meetings.

my purpose at the time was a study on comparative religion, which i eventually became a student of in full practice.

of all the organizations i met with, the witnesses were the most friendly at first, welcoming me to ask many questions about the bible.

ABibleStudent

Welcome MoneurMallard and interesting first post. Who were those 1st century writers that you mentioned in your post and what did they write about? Did any of those writers write about the Jews or early Christianity?

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

ABibleStudent

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Victoria, Australia: Report on Sept. 13th hearing involving Steven Unthank

by AndersonsInfo in

i received the following information from the xjw in australia who agreed to keep us all informed of whatever takes place at court hearings that involve steven unthank and the five watch tower entities that were recently criminally charged in victoria, australia.. .

this is the report for the hearing held on september 13, 2011.. .

barbara.

ABibleStudent

Thanks Barbara and the XJW in Australia for this update. Does anyone know how Mr Unthank felt about the proceedings? I am curious why Mr Unthank also named the FDS in those suits.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

ABibleStudent

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My trouble

by bushido8000 in

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i have been facing a small dilemma for some years now.

i have been in the truth since i was 5 years old.

after experiencing some troubles with man-made rules (non-scriptural, told me that i absolutely could not join my small school's football team) in the kingdom hall when i was about 16, i stopped going to take a step back and look at what was going on.

ABibleStudent

Hi Busido8000, what traits do the elitists have and how would like to change what they think? I know a former friend, who is a devout JW, say that some JWs are not as spiritual as others. She felt that she was in the more spiritual group. I have often wondered how someone could consider themselves more spiritual than another - I thought that was for Our Father and Jesus Christ to decide. It takes a load off my mind knowing that I do not have to judge others. I just have to decide who I like to hang out with.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

ABibleStudent

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2 more teens leave the WBT$ slaveholdery! CELEBRATION TIME C'MON!

by punkofnice in

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friends

sonofnice was happy to tell me that 2 of his jdub friends have told their parents: 'that's it, i quit!'.

whereas i do feel sorry for the parents i also celebrate the freedom of these kids who have taken control of their lives and not committed themselves to 7 paedophile protectors in crooklyn.. .

long may it continue!!

ABibleStudent

Thanks for sharing punkofnice. Did sonofnice share exJW websites with the two JWs, who are leaving? Although 2 out of 3 JWs maybe leaving the WTBTS every year, a significant number of exJWs return to the WTBTS because they do not know that there are exJW support groups willing to help them transition from life as a JW to a happier life as an exJW. Something as simple as sending an anonymous email (http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/211893/1/Youe28099ve-Got-Mail-TM) to an exJW/JW with website address to forums, such as JWN, or to informative websites as www.jwfacts.com or www.watchtowerdocuments.com could have a significant impact on helping exJWs overcome the WTBTS induced phobias to live a happier life and sooner.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

ABibleStudent

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I am officially sick of hearing the WBT$'s brand name for god = Jehovah!

by punkofnice in

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friends

it's that simple.

i'm sick up to here (guestures to above head), of hearing the dubs trot out their brand name for their imaginary sky friend who is so loving they're petrified he'll murder them soon!!!!!.

the other week i heard a conversation between 2 dubs that ended with the cliche: 'jehovah will sort it out!

ABibleStudent

punkofnice - It's that simple. I'm sick up to here (guestures to above head), of hearing the dubs trot out their brand name for their imaginary sky friend who is so loving they're petrified he'll murder them SOON!!!!!

Don't you mean the JWs' god(s) (GB) in Bethel? The WTBTS seems to be indoctrinating JWs to believe in the GB's divine guidance rather than divine guidance from Our Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit. I must give the WTBTS credit for being very good at thought reform. I can only hope and pray that Our Father and Jesus Christ are getting really pissed off at them and change will be coming very soon.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

ABibleStudent