Posts by ABibleStudent

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Thanks!

by Lightgrowsbrighter in

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thanks to all of the friends here at jwn who commented and encouraged me on my 1st and 2nd post.

it was pointed out that my 1st post was on page 5 of the recent elders thread and that i should properly introduce myself with a new thread.

the lightgrowsbrighter name is somewhat of play on words.

ABibleStudent

Welcome Lightgrowsbrighter, Since you feel that the WTBTS does teach some good things, do you feel that teaching some good things can justify the WTBTS using BITE control techniques to victimize JWs?

If you do not know what BITE stands or what I am stating, please either visit Steve Hassan's website www.freeedomofmind.com, watch the Strategic Interactive Approach explained 2003 (1:23:23) video of Steve Hassan, and/or read Steve Hassan's books (i.e., "Combatting Cult Mind Control", "Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves", and (his latest book) "Freedom of Mind: Helping Loved Ones Leave Controlling People, Cults and Beliefs"). I view the WTBTS leadership (not individual JWs) like Jesus Christ said in Mt 7:14-16.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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The new pamphlets

by joelfromgeorgia in

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the witnesses regularly leave me copies of the watchtower and awake.

i was surprised to see them in pamphlet form.

anyone know the history behind the change?.

ABibleStudent

Does this mean that JWs are changing their strategy to a drop and run instead of spreading the word through proselytizing? If JWs are dropping off phamplets and running, I wonder how JWs will be able to brag about how well they are spreading the word of the WTBTS.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Where the need is greater: TTATT in Spanish

by Londo111 in

it seems most of the us growth is in spanish-speaking territory, and of course, there is growth in the nations where spanish is the predominant language.

most sites oriented around ttatt, are english-speaking.

there seems then to be a great need for translators...for instance, imagine if there was a spanish version of www.jwfacts.com.. unfortunately, i dont speak this language.

ABibleStudent

BTTT

I think that this is the 1st thread that I have read on JWN in 3 years that people have respectfully and generally agreed with each other on a course of action to help JWs to see TTATT.

It sounds like jwfacts needs one coordinator, who is a native-Spanish speaker, to coordinate with jwfacts and translators and to answer emails in Spanish, and at least two translators. Should volunteers contact jwfacts through [email protected] or another email address? Would jwfacts need to establlish another email address to receive spanish emails and reduce the workload of forwarding emails?

If Simon were to start a Spanish forum on JWN, would he need at least one native-Spanish speaker to moderate the forum and answer Spanish emails?

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Just sent letter to my parents that I no longer want to be a JW

by ?evrything in

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friends

i was a born in.

both parents are uber dubs and mother has been depressed lately.

so i m super nervous.

ABibleStudent

Hi ?evrything, Four hours is a long-time for a JW to spend with a WTBTS dissenter. If they asked you questions and did not get upset, they may do more research in a couple of weeks to prove you wrong and want to meet with you again.

Best of wishes helping your parents to critically think for themselves.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Stats: Does Money affect the growth? Analyze please...

by ILoveTTATT in

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i made a graph of the new members from 2012 to 2013 in all countries that had positive growth, and graphed them against the country's gdp per capita.. .

the general trend is, as expected, less growth the more money there is in a country.

but there were some unexpected results.

ABibleStudent

Hi ILoveTTATT, Have you tried to plot new members versus internet penetration and new members versus a country's minimum wage? Try the following Wikipedia links for quick sources and you can use the references to confirm the numbers:

I think that you might discover that the WTBTS grows more in countries where people are poorer and there are fewer internet users.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Where the need is greater: TTATT in Spanish

by Londo111 in

it seems most of the us growth is in spanish-speaking territory, and of course, there is growth in the nations where spanish is the predominant language.

most sites oriented around ttatt, are english-speaking.

there seems then to be a great need for translators...for instance, imagine if there was a spanish version of www.jwfacts.com.. unfortunately, i dont speak this language.

ABibleStudent

jwfacts - I would like ideas on whether the site should be jwfacts.com/espanol/article-title or a separate website with a spanish URL, such as tjhechos.es? In that case, would .es work, or does that seem to identify it as a site from Spain, rather than for Spanish speaking people?

Hi jwfacts, I feel it would be simplist to just append "_es" to the spanish written article's name. In the future, it would be easy enough to add other languages as sufficient people volunteer to translate articles. Also, I feel that it is better to focus on the WTBTSs flip-flops and the more dangerous WTBTS's doctrines, because the WTBTS changes its doctrines too much.

Best of wishes with adding Spanish translations to JWfacts.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Just sent letter to my parents that I no longer want to be a JW

by ?evrything in

jw
friends

i was a born in.

both parents are uber dubs and mother has been depressed lately.

so i m super nervous.

ABibleStudent

Good-luck ?evrything, How did you meeting with your parents go?

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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if we don't all unite, we may win a few battles but Watchtower will win the WAR.

by excaliber in

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friends

to thank you for taking the time to read this, because i feel that it is extremely important.

over the years we have been waring against the watchtower, and our battle field has been the internet.and we have been very successful in establishing discussion forums and online resorces exposing false teachings and we have used youtube to further shed light on the watchtower, we have even written books to this end.. .

yes we have attacked watchtower at its weakest point, the internet and we have been able to do this as small groups and even individualy.

ABibleStudent

Hi excaliber, I love your passion, however getting exJWs to unite against the WTBTS is like herding cats. Have you ever tried to heard cats?

If you can discover an exJW catnip and can promote a vision that exJWs and non-JWs can support as individuals, then I am in. I tried to promote on JWN about writing/petitioning the U.S. government to add additional requirements for non-profit organizations to the tax codes in the thread: URGENT: Please Sign White House Petition to "Protect Americans from Dangerous Cults: Modify USC Title 26 § 501 Tax Exemption Requirements" and It's Back! . . . Round 2.. The reaction that I got from exJWs was not pretty.

I'm still convinced that disallowing deductions by JWs if the WTBTS does not comply with tax code requirements is the best way to change the WTBTS (and other dangerous cults) and without compromising the U.S. Constitution.

Best of wishes discovering your vision.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Where the need is greater: TTATT in Spanish

by Londo111 in

it seems most of the us growth is in spanish-speaking territory, and of course, there is growth in the nations where spanish is the predominant language.

most sites oriented around ttatt, are english-speaking.

there seems then to be a great need for translators...for instance, imagine if there was a spanish version of www.jwfacts.com.. unfortunately, i dont speak this language.

ABibleStudent

Simon - I've thought about allowing posting in any language with each post

Hi Simon, If a native-speaking person would volunteer to be a moderator for a non-English forum, would you be willing to create at least one forum in another langauge? It should be easy enough to start a friends forum in another language where people can introduce themselves, vent their frustrations, and/or ask for help.

I use Google Chrome and its translation features to get the gist of non-English webpages very frequently.

Regards,

Robert

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Where the need is greater: TTATT in Spanish

by Londo111 in

it seems most of the us growth is in spanish-speaking territory, and of course, there is growth in the nations where spanish is the predominant language.

most sites oriented around ttatt, are english-speaking.

there seems then to be a great need for translators...for instance, imagine if there was a spanish version of www.jwfacts.com.. unfortunately, i dont speak this language.

ABibleStudent

BTTT

To maintain the integrity of JWfacts, I feel that at least 3 translators would need to translate one webpage. The first translator would translate the page; the 2nd translator would review what the 1st translator wrote and make grammer, spelling, and translation differences; and the 3rd translator would resolve any disagreements in translations, grammer, and spelling. It would probably help if all the translators would at least sign thier translation with at least their first name and last initials followed by (last name withheld because of reason) on each webpage.

I feel that more than one translator is needed because look how Bible translators disagree with each other of words like pornea. Some peope translate pornea into fornication and others into sexual immorality. To me there is a major difference between fornication and sexual immorality.

Best of wishes for those Spanish speaking people who contact JWfacts to help him translate JWfacts webpages.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert