Posts by ABibleStudent

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News article: Watchtower buys former motel

by AndersonsInfo in

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http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20140322/biz/403220306 watchtower buys former motelgroup may also purchase site in tuxedo the former hampton inn on route 300 will provide housing for volunteers working on the watchtowers new headquarters being built in goshen.steve borland/times herald-record.

by james walshtimes herald-recordpublished: 2:00 am - 03/22/14town of newburgh the watchtower tract and bible society closed friday on the purchase of the hampton inn on route 300.. watchtower spokesman richard devine said the building will be used to provide housing for short-term volunteers working on the organization's world headquarters, which is under construction in warwick.. the sale price wasn't disclosed.. another property, sterling forest apartments in a rural area of the town of tuxedo, may also be purchased by watchtower.

that would provide housing for long-term volunteer construction workers at the headquarters.. "we talked to the owner there," devine said of the apartments, "but we're still investigating that.

ABibleStudent

Hi ShirleyW, I know that the WTBTS is currently both a printing/distributing company and a real estate holding company. I am just wondering if the WTBTS plans to do less printing/distributing and buy more real estate.

Why would the WTBTS buy motels? I could think of two reasons. Owning motels would allow the WTBTS to make money from JWs visiting HQ in the future. Also, will the WTBTS convert motels to rest homes for JWs. Since there are more senior JWs in developed countries than younger ones, the WTBTS might be transitioning into operating resthomes for senior JWs. I could easily imagine the WTBTS pitching to JWs, "Come spend your last days with "Spiritually Enlightened, True Christians" in a paradise on earth" and all you have to do make the WTBTS the beneficiary of your house and assets when you die.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Went to visit my parents!

by Kool Jo in

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ABibleStudent

Thanks for sharing Kool Jo. It is good that he can think more for himself. You did a good job of expanding his knowledge or the WTBTS.

Since your father seemed a little surprized by the WTBTS owning stocks, what would your father have said if you told him how to find out which companies the WTBTS owns stock in?

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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News article: Watchtower buys former motel

by AndersonsInfo in

jw
friends

http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20140322/biz/403220306 watchtower buys former motelgroup may also purchase site in tuxedo the former hampton inn on route 300 will provide housing for volunteers working on the watchtowers new headquarters being built in goshen.steve borland/times herald-record.

by james walshtimes herald-recordpublished: 2:00 am - 03/22/14town of newburgh the watchtower tract and bible society closed friday on the purchase of the hampton inn on route 300.. watchtower spokesman richard devine said the building will be used to provide housing for short-term volunteers working on the organization's world headquarters, which is under construction in warwick.. the sale price wasn't disclosed.. another property, sterling forest apartments in a rural area of the town of tuxedo, may also be purchased by watchtower.

that would provide housing for long-term volunteer construction workers at the headquarters.. "we talked to the owner there," devine said of the apartments, "but we're still investigating that.

ABibleStudent

Thanks for sharing Barbara.

I'm curious what monetary benefit the WTBTS will receive from owning an apartment complex. Is the WTBTS transitioning from a printing/distribution company to a real estate holding/motel company? The WTBTS from one side of their mouth says, "Donate more and do more", and from the other side says "Buy, buy, buy."

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Should Passive Resistance Be The Weapon Of Choice For Those Stuck In The Watchtower Corporation Cult?

by frankiespeakin in

what can a person do who is stuck in the watchtower cult movement but don't want to be shunned or disfellowshipped but want to follow a course of passive resistants, like ghandi did to the brits to get them out of control over india?.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nonviolent_resistance.

ABibleStudent

While working on my car, I thought of a few more ideas of passive resistance for JWs to use:

Stick permanent QR code stickers on WTBTS propaganda that you distribute and better yet stick them on propaganda left lying around the KH.
Transform into an imbecile when asked to perform tasks for the WTBTS. If a Mic MS, do whatever you can to sabotage a talk, such as slowly lowering the volume so that people get bored and fall asleep, and then suddenly increasing the volume to wake them up. If working on a build or remodel, work very slowly and be a social butterfly with other JWs so that they work slowly.
Do not study the WTBTS propaganda before meetings and when called upon to answer questions read the responses very slowly like you need glasses to read the answers.
When quoting scriptures with JWs, always use scriptures that the WTBTS doesn't use to show how different Jesus Christ behaved with love and compassion, unlike the Pharisees and Sadducees.
When talking with JWs that look for signs that the Big A is fast approaching either help them to see how wonderful the world is today verses years ago, or ask JWs how will Paradise be better with fullofhimself elder and elderette in Paradise.

Have a Great Day! I need to get back to working on my car.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Should Passive Resistance Be The Weapon Of Choice For Those Stuck In The Watchtower Corporation Cult?

by frankiespeakin in

what can a person do who is stuck in the watchtower cult movement but don't want to be shunned or disfellowshipped but want to follow a course of passive resistants, like ghandi did to the brits to get them out of control over india?.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nonviolent_resistance.

ABibleStudent

Hi frankiespeakin, Here is my list of how JWs could passively resist the WTBTS:

Don't donate to the WTBTS for any reason.
Don't volunteer to build/remodel KHs/assembly halls/WTBTS HQ
Don't commit to remodeling/building a KH unless it is really need and ask probing questions of elders who try to pressure JWs.
Don't make reservations at WTBTS recommended hotels for assemblies/conventions. Find less expensive/better accomodations at other nearby hotels.
Do not loan money to the WTBTS.
If required to meet with elders, meet with elders with other JW family and friends present and in your own home, instead of at the KH.
Stop using WTBTS indoctrinated thought-stopping platitudes when talking with JWs and non-JWs. Help other JWs stop using thought-stopping platitudes by asking JWs simple questions when they use those platitiudes.
Spend more time at coffee shops or going to movies than in FS. Do the bear minimum of FS hours.
If conducting bible studies, study the Bible instead of attempting to indoctrinate non-JWs with WTBTS propaganda.
Do home bible studies without WTBTS material.
Go out, have fun, and associate with more non-JWs than with JWs.
Enjoy time-consuming hobbies.
Get a better education/training so that you qualify for a better paying career.
Partake at the Memorial and tell other JWs you are following Jesus Christ's instructions.
Visit sites like www.jwfacts.com and www.freedomofmind.com to help one criticaly think for themselves.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Overseer's wife accompanied my Elderette, to answer my question, "Who really is the faithful and discreet slave?"

by Faithful Witness in

as usual, i was unprepared for a "drop-in" visit by a jw.

they seem to have a knack for coming when you're in the middle of something, or your house is a complete disaster... for me, both things are almost always true.

it's better if you call me and warn me before you come over.

ABibleStudent

Hi Faithful Witness, JWs (as do other dangerous cult members) use "unhealthy influence" tactics to deflect a conversation. Examples of deflection are asking questions back to make it appear that you have personal issues, switching subjects (especially if they feel that they are unable to prove their position) and quoting unrelated verses to confuse potential recruits. Steve Hassan's video How Big is the Phenomenon of Undue Influence? (2:01) may help you to better understand what I'm talking about.

Too overcome deflection tactics ask them simple questions in an inquisitive tone of voice, such as "Why did you change subjects?", "How are those verses related?" or "How is _____ related to _______?", "Do you know that by switching subjects so frequently you are bringing reproach on the WTBTS, because householders will start to think you belong to a dangerous cult? (show them Steve Hassan's video to prove your point)"

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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I just got to play householder!

by Laika in

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friends

i was a little nervous and a bit dazed, i think i will do better next time.

he offered me the memorial invite, i told him i had jw family who would invite me and he got interested and wanted to find out more, so i told him i wasn't interested in the jw religion, he asked why and i said i find it too controlling.

he thought i was talking about moral rules so started on about how jehovah doesn't want to restrict us 'blah blah', so i pointed out that i meant they're not allowed to read certain materials which is wrong if it's as true as they are confident of.. he then went on about how satan uses false teaching to manipulate us and so we have to be careful of what we read.

ABibleStudent

You did well Laika! You cared enough for the JW to help him critically think for himself.

When JWs try to give me their propaganda, I just ask if I can give them life saving information in return. It is easy to overcome their objections about not being able to accept religious material by saying that I will not be giving them religious material. I then accept their propagand and write either www.jwfacts.com or www.freedomofmind.com on the material and hand it back to them.

I think that I will now ask them why they cannot accept material about other religions like you did to plant more seeds of doubt in their minds. I might even ask them why they do not follow God's two greatist commandments.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Might Get to See My Grandchildren Today

by mrquik in

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my oldest daughter is still in the cult.

i haven't seen my grandchildren in 5 yrs.

my son-in-law's father died this week & the funeral is today.

ABibleStudent

Live well . . . Enjoy life, mrquik. At least you are free of the WTBTS.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Overseer's wife accompanied my Elderette, to answer my question, "Who really is the faithful and discreet slave?"

by Faithful Witness in

as usual, i was unprepared for a "drop-in" visit by a jw.

they seem to have a knack for coming when you're in the middle of something, or your house is a complete disaster... for me, both things are almost always true.

it's better if you call me and warn me before you come over.

ABibleStudent

Hi Faithful Witness, For someone who has not prepared much to overcome BITE control (and has low blood sugar) you did good.

What did you learn from this experience? Did you learn that you must be more prepared? Did you learn that you either must have some excuse to make an appointment when they can come back, or to have something for you to boost your low blood sugar? Did you learn to always ask (in an inquiring tone of voice) where is that in the Bible and to ask more questions that lead the JW to trip over the WTBTS's logic and thought-stopping platitudes? Did you learn to forgive yourself for making mistakes with JWs who you don't know so that you are better prepared to help JW family and friends?

Remember to be prepared and to control your emotions.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Need advice for asking a girl out

by DuvanMuvan in

well long story short, i've been meaning to ask this girl at school out for a while but i can never do it because her friends are always there in the way and i would prefer to ask her in person.

we've liked each other for a while (i was oblivious until about a month or two ago) and i'm also i bit worried she'll get tired of waiting.. i was just wondering if anyone had any advice or something that they could give me.

ABibleStudent

Congratulations on overcoming your fear DuvanMuvan! Remember how relieved you felt after asking that girl instead of continuing to worry about whether that girl liked you. Now what other girls do you like? Go ask them out.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert