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Thanks for sharing Kool Jo. It is good that he can think more for himself. You did a good job of expanding his knowledge or the WTBTS.
Since your father seemed a little surprized by the WTBTS owning stocks, what would your father have said if you told him how to find out which companies the WTBTS owns stock in?
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20140322/biz/403220306 watchtower buys former motelgroup may also purchase site in tuxedo the former hampton inn on route 300 will provide housing for volunteers working on the watchtowers new headquarters being built in goshen.steve borland/times herald-record.
by james walshtimes herald-recordpublished: 2:00 am - 03/22/14town of newburgh the watchtower tract and bible society closed friday on the purchase of the hampton inn on route 300.. watchtower spokesman richard devine said the building will be used to provide housing for short-term volunteers working on the organization's world headquarters, which is under construction in warwick.. the sale price wasn't disclosed.. another property, sterling forest apartments in a rural area of the town of tuxedo, may also be purchased by watchtower.
that would provide housing for long-term volunteer construction workers at the headquarters.. "we talked to the owner there," devine said of the apartments, "but we're still investigating that.
Thanks for sharing Barbara.
I'm curious what monetary benefit the WTBTS will receive from owning an apartment complex. Is the WTBTS transitioning from a printing/distribution company to a real estate holding/motel company? The WTBTS from one side of their mouth says, "Donate more and do more", and from the other side says "Buy, buy, buy."
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
what can a person do who is stuck in the watchtower cult movement but don't want to be shunned or disfellowshipped but want to follow a course of passive resistants, like ghandi did to the brits to get them out of control over india?.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nonviolent_resistance.
While working on my car, I thought of a few more ideas of passive resistance for JWs to use:
Have a Great Day! I need to get back to working on my car.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
what can a person do who is stuck in the watchtower cult movement but don't want to be shunned or disfellowshipped but want to follow a course of passive resistants, like ghandi did to the brits to get them out of control over india?.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nonviolent_resistance.
Hi frankiespeakin, Here is my list of how JWs could passively resist the WTBTS:
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
as usual, i was unprepared for a "drop-in" visit by a jw.
they seem to have a knack for coming when you're in the middle of something, or your house is a complete disaster... for me, both things are almost always true.
it's better if you call me and warn me before you come over.
Hi Faithful Witness, JWs (as do other dangerous cult members) use "unhealthy influence" tactics to deflect a conversation. Examples of deflection are asking questions back to make it appear that you have personal issues, switching subjects (especially if they feel that they are unable to prove their position) and quoting unrelated verses to confuse potential recruits. Steve Hassan's video How Big is the Phenomenon of Undue Influence? (2:01) may help you to better understand what I'm talking about.
Too overcome deflection tactics ask them simple questions in an inquisitive tone of voice, such as "Why did you change subjects?", "How are those verses related?" or "How is _____ related to _______?", "Do you know that by switching subjects so frequently you are bringing reproach on the WTBTS, because householders will start to think you belong to a dangerous cult? (show them Steve Hassan's video to prove your point)"
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
i was a little nervous and a bit dazed, i think i will do better next time.
he offered me the memorial invite, i told him i had jw family who would invite me and he got interested and wanted to find out more, so i told him i wasn't interested in the jw religion, he asked why and i said i find it too controlling.
he thought i was talking about moral rules so started on about how jehovah doesn't want to restrict us 'blah blah', so i pointed out that i meant they're not allowed to read certain materials which is wrong if it's as true as they are confident of.. he then went on about how satan uses false teaching to manipulate us and so we have to be careful of what we read.
You did well Laika! You cared enough for the JW to help him critically think for himself.
When JWs try to give me their propaganda, I just ask if I can give them life saving information in return. It is easy to overcome their objections about not being able to accept religious material by saying that I will not be giving them religious material. I then accept their propagand and write either www.jwfacts.com or www.freedomofmind.com on the material and hand it back to them.
I think that I will now ask them why they cannot accept material about other religions like you did to plant more seeds of doubt in their minds. I might even ask them why they do not follow God's two greatist commandments.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
my oldest daughter is still in the cult.
i haven't seen my grandchildren in 5 yrs.
my son-in-law's father died this week & the funeral is today.
Live well . . . Enjoy life, mrquik. At least you are free of the WTBTS.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
as usual, i was unprepared for a "drop-in" visit by a jw.
they seem to have a knack for coming when you're in the middle of something, or your house is a complete disaster... for me, both things are almost always true.
it's better if you call me and warn me before you come over.
Hi Faithful Witness, For someone who has not prepared much to overcome BITE control (and has low blood sugar) you did good.
What did you learn from this experience? Did you learn that you must be more prepared? Did you learn that you either must have some excuse to make an appointment when they can come back, or to have something for you to boost your low blood sugar? Did you learn to always ask (in an inquiring tone of voice) where is that in the Bible and to ask more questions that lead the JW to trip over the WTBTS's logic and thought-stopping platitudes? Did you learn to forgive yourself for making mistakes with JWs who you don't know so that you are better prepared to help JW family and friends?
Remember to be prepared and to control your emotions.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
well long story short, i've been meaning to ask this girl at school out for a while but i can never do it because her friends are always there in the way and i would prefer to ask her in person.
we've liked each other for a while (i was oblivious until about a month or two ago) and i'm also i bit worried she'll get tired of waiting.. i was just wondering if anyone had any advice or something that they could give me.
Congratulations on overcoming your fear DuvanMuvan! Remember how relieved you felt after asking that girl instead of continuing to worry about whether that girl liked you. Now what other girls do you like? Go ask them out.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
my oldest daughter is still in the cult.
i haven't seen my grandchildren in 5 yrs.
my son-in-law's father died this week & the funeral is today.
Best of wishes mrquik. If it helps you, think of going to a funeral as a celebration of a person's life and visiting with people who you have not seen in a while, and not an infomercial of the WTBTS.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
