occassionally the mr will say that "some visitors are shocked because we will talk about sex, even with children in attendance.
" what exactly are they talking about in these meetings.
things like "don't masturbate" or things like if you position yourself like this, and your woman like this while having sex, then you're fornicating?.
Right on, JWoods, everything but the exposure of CHILD ABUSE!! - Conspicuous by it's absence!
Pretty naive I guess - the first time I heard most of this stuff was at the 'keedom' hall, my kids were 8 & 9 at the time! lol The society seems to take pride in their unseemly brazzen shouting their mouths off. (my first use of brazen - it fits!)
clarity
as an elder of many years, i was continually struck with the abundance of chronically ill witnesses whose disease appeared to be related to their own stress at trying to meet the endless demands of the "truth".
i am not a medical professional but i don't need to be a doctor to know that the depression and virtual self loathing ('i'm not good enough, i must do more, i'm a bad parent....") sets a stage for ill health.. and now science backs up that conclusion:.
http://www.amazon.com/when-body-says-understanding-stress-disease/dp/0471219827.
Metatron....
Won't mention Halls but a young bro committed suicide shortly after I started attending mtgs....big surprise. Looking back thru the years, many young kids (same age as mine) ended up in psych wards, and again at least 3 more suicides! I was in the 'world' in my early life .... funny, never heard of that happening to anyone I knew then!!
Looks like the book titled-
"When the Body says NO", we need to say - "NO, to the Body of Elders! "
clarity
i have noticed a lot of newbies lately.
(i also noticed that after being absent for a year happy1975 is making a return visit.).
so, if you are a brand spanking newbie, post here and tell us a little about your interests, your state, your new direction in life, your favorite things, whatever you want to say---this is your thread.. .
Vampire & Hadit
i have noticed a lot of newbies lately.
(i also noticed that after being absent for a year happy1975 is making a return visit.).
so, if you are a brand spanking newbie, post here and tell us a little about your interests, your state, your new direction in life, your favorite things, whatever you want to say---this is your thread.. .
What can I say? Thanks for being here for me, might suffice ... but let me add that, in all the years of feeling alone with my doubts and confusion, I never dreamed you all were 'out' here. So often, crying all the way home from the meetings and not being able to put my finger on what was really wrong! Thought it was just me. A square peg in a round hole! Got very disillusioned with the conditional 'love', cliques, nonsense rules, elder arrogance and started to question ... slowly... slowly... omg ..the GB guys! They always seemed airy fairy, in a fog like place, and amazingly they knew how to interpret the bible. If I tried to figure that out, I was told that would be "sinning against the holy spirit"!! But until I came on this site, the blinders hadn't fallen from eyes. I now see clearly. What a revelation it was to understand that the GB's predictions were all false etc. Almost a year now, still healing from decades of brain washing but there are hours of exceeding exuberance and such freeness of thought and action that I'm giddy with it all...................................................Thanks everyone for your efforts put into showing the real truth.
Christ is the Way and the Truth ... the only truth I want now.
clarity
were you ever marked?.
i'm pretty sure my family was marked.
it was never announced.
Georgiegirl ..... don't you just love forever..someone who has the guts, decency and love..
to STAND UP for you!
if so why???.
btw - i just see it as collection of old books written by men who reflected the thinking and knowledge of their time?.
Thanks Littlebird
Another one of those Ahha! moments, sort of puts things into perspective.................... walkin away thinkin geez another scripture i don't remember reading!!
clarity
hello wonderful people,.
i am a long time lurker and still two footed.
i stay in for family reasons, i really do make a terrible witness only going to 50% of the meetings in a good month.
Quando you're funny
What the world needs now is .... more FUNNY! welcome.
So that darn toe of yours kept stickin out, huh? .....that was sure a close call, ...you know if it kept on stumbling you......they might have had to cut it off!!!
just wondering what some of your opinions are on this scripture???
its one that has been thrown at me time and time again when i talk of my decision to leave the 'organization of god'.
as i would not be gathering together with his people and therefore forsaking the gathering of myself together..... (if ya get me!)..
bez,
The way I've come to understand this 'command to gather together', is this ....
Evidently, (forgive me, just lovin this triggerword!) the Jews and Apostles & converts were not getting along very well. The Jews, were still caughtup with circumcision and various points of the Law and relations were not too friendly with the New Guys on the block. Hence the admonition, at Hebrews 10:25 ... "not forsaking the gathering of our selves together, as some have the custom" (ie the cranky ones who won't co-operate) "but encouraging one another"... CAN WE JUST GET ALONG HERE! ... you get the picture.
Also, you will be relieved when you read Deut.31:12 .."congregate the men, women and little ones ... that they may learn... " Now let your eyes go up to vs.10 ... do it EVERY SEVEN YEARS!
Now you gotta love that ...have a great week-end, clarity
the august km, has an article entitled, "you can witness informally!
" this week's service meeting will cover half of the 13 questions.
next week, congregations will finish the article along with a box full of several experiences with successful results from informal witnessing.
miseryloveselders,
That "Approach" thing really feaked me out. Imagine ... you're walking along a road .... a car stops behind you ... a stranger jumps out and hurry's to catch up to you ....screeeeeemmmmm!! Who was the idiot who thought of that!
How's this for an infringement of PRIVACY? Heard this from a "bro" a few weeks ago. Seems when searching for new victims when doing apartments, any who do not answer the Buzzer, will have a didgital picture taken of the directory with their Names and suite number, which will be used to FIND their phone #!
Can you imagine what people going by, or see them from inside, THINK! Sheesh! Or what the poor woman who is hiding out from her abusive exboyfriend would think seeing this going on outside!
Do they ever think for one minute that IF "worldlies" want to read watchtowers .... they can go on the net. Oh silly me, they are forbidden to think!
Anyone else heard about this or using cell phones to track people down? Ugly ugly behavior. Much like stalking ... must be a law!
i am new here this is my first post but ive been looking at some of the topics here for 2 or 3 months.
well i guess i should give yall a backround of myself.
i am a teenager, so i cant tell my family(mostly jws) how i feel.
Shadowolf - be careful, you do know that if df'd or shunned, your family & friends may not associate with you for a very long time .... how crappy is that, 16 yrs old! A handful of old men, mostly not married, no children and they make the decree that will break families, and ruin lives......oh sorry forgot it's a loving thing! Not! Make that your goal, to go to college. Keep your mind active, develop critical thinking ... so you can tell the difference between a truth & a lie. As Diamondiiz recommends, ask your parents a lot of questions, you're a kid, you are supposed to do that! Welcome
clarity
