Posts by clarity

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2 Cor 11:4 PROVES there were various versions of Jesus and gospels BEFORE the gospels
by yadda yadda 2 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
the gospels were written after paul's epistles.

this is commonly acknowledged by both apologist and neutural bible scholars.

yet we see that paul says clearly in 2 corinthians 11:4 that persons were preaching different versions of jesus and different gospels before the orthodox canonized gospels were written:.
clarity

Designs... this really interests me..

"What you discover when you study Judaism is that Paul abandoned a Jewish Messiah for an entirely new invention of his own making. His idea, while trying to tie in Jewish verses, is not the Jewish messiah. Paul (or whoever it was writing under that name) knew the Jewish response and moved his ministry to the Gentiles who were gullible and naive about Judaism. first major error with Paul's Gospel- The Messiah and Originl Sin in Romans, complete and utter lie and fabrication. It goes downhill from there."

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I am not disagreeing with you at all D, but would you be so kind

as to post a short excerpt from one of your sources to show this?

thanks

clarity
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Does the Watchtower Society Governing Body Carry Arms?
by Scott77 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
"...personally, i fully understand why members of the governing body travel with escorts.

occasionally, ones carrying licensed firearms..." focus does the watchtower society governing body carry arms?

how about jehovah's witnesses?
clarity

And these same guys are claiming ..........that

they are a CHARITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Oh yeah ...they are helpers alright ..........

help themselves to all the money in your

pocket!

Never hated anyone more!
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R and me
by Pistoff in
1. jw
2. experiences
what is it like for you when you run into someone from your happy days growing up in the kingdom hall?.

it happened to me recently, and it brought out a flood of memories about r, an old friend and mentor.. it is a service day; as we drive along route 6 in rs gray four door rambler ambassador, we pass a baptist church.

it is a thursday afternoon, sunny and warm, and r and i are on our way to the territory to make calls.
clarity

You have captured the essence of those strange times.

The urgency of the late '60's blinded us to reality.

The stupid feeling of ...oh well, the world is ending soon,

so we wasted our robust years on hot air & threw away

people, fortunes and our very futures.

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Well done Pistoff...I so enjoyed this, look forward to

more!

clarity
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New Tactic
by sprintcmp in
1. jw
2. experiences
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-28166192.

i had not seen much of this even in the chicago area, but in small town bloomington-normal, il (pop.

150,000) i have seen this new tactic for the last two days at a busy train/bus station which is located in the heart of town.
clarity

Did a double take ....there they were on the side walk

in the middle of town. I watched as the people walked

by and the 2 "preachers" made no effort to communicate,

they just rocked back and forth on their heels!!!!!!

Omg people are going to think they really are bat shit crazy

now!!! hahahah

clarity
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Full-time service is MORE IMPORTANT than taking care of elderly parents!!! It says so in the Sept 2014 WT
by EndofMysteries in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
paragraph 20 out of the article in the sept 2014 study wt about fulltime service says this.... .

"full-time servants age, and so do their parents.

when parents are witnesses, likely their fondest wish is for their children to stay in their assignments.
clarity

In the 1960's watchtower said "let the dead bury the dead!"

In other words, if your family members were not jw's ....

abandon them to the other "worldlies"!

Nice guys huh?

clarity
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Goodbye JW net
by snare&racket in
1. jw
2. friends
forgive me for indulging in a goodbye but it would feel wrong not to,.

i hope the discussions and atmosphere here do not change for it is a bubbling brew of doubt, bravery and sincere hunger for answers.

these are healthy ingrediants for humans and especially for a jehovah's witness.. this forum offers not just the ability to ask without consequence, but it also offers the means to be real.
clarity

What a happy day huh....wishing you all the best,

godspeed Dr Snare!

clarity
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WOW....LOOK at THESE J W 's in FULL SHUNNING MODE!
by clarity in
1. jw
2. experiences
have a look at the blank faces as this man asks a .

simple question.

this video is proof ...jw's will.
clarity

Have a look at the BLANK faces as this man asks a

simple question. This video is proof ...jw's will

shun anybody! Can you feel the LUV!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eln4CzqcUl4

c
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Pedophile Elder in jail gets reinstated
by Trapped in JW land in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
there was a brother in my congregation who was an elder.

he got disfellowshipped about two years ago for looking at child porn and also trying to meet up with a thirteen year old boy online.

he was also arrested soon after this.
clarity

Trapped ....just want to say welcome here

and thanks for sharing! Did you do a post

telling a bit about yourself ...if so I missed it,

sorry.

Anyway we look forward to hearing more

and helping you as much as we can!

clarity
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New Member Story
by No Retreat No Surrender in
1. jw
2. friends
when i found out "ttat" i felt like muhammad ali when joe frazer knocked him down in their first fight in the 15th round.

the ref came over grab my gloves and looked me in the eyes and asked me "are you ok, can you continue" and then gave me the standing 8 count.

no it didn't knock me out but it staggered me.
clarity

Huge welcome to you No retreat! Loved your story.

All the best to you both!

clarity
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JW Lady Witnesses to me in My Truck While Trying to get a Nap !
by flipper in
1. jw
2. friends
incredible.

absolutely incredible.

so i asked, " isn't it 100 years since 1914 ?
clarity

"She certainly can't unhear what I told her"

Ha ha ..I agree, she will never get those words

out of her head!!!!! .... Sooner or later *****