I really got the picture a few years back when WT said ...."Imagine the how it will be in the paradise(new world!) see yourself running thru the flowers, smell how great it all is, happiness everywhere .......make it REAL for yourself!"
REAL?
just got back from the wt study and it overall was just so blindingly biased and leading.. i had to read it from the platform too, i hope they couldn't see the confounded look on my face as i read this craziness out!.
first we consider the faith of abel, enoch, noah, abraham, isaac and jacob, and moses.. all of these people are held up as sterling examples of blind faith, with the article pointedly saying that their imaginations sustained their faith in gods promises for them.
no mention anywhere at all that all of these characters saw and talked to angels, spoke to god himself, saw and performed miracles, or any of the other feats experienced by these characters.
I really got the picture a few years back when WT said ...."Imagine the how it will be in the paradise(new world!) see yourself running thru the flowers, smell how great it all is, happiness everywhere .......make it REAL for yourself!"
REAL?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ale8iq3vcw.
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it's the hard knock life - jehovah's witness version.
Love it thanks!
i was never told before i got baptised that i would loose my family if i got disfellowshipped.. no one told me i would get disfellowshipped if i had a blood transfusion.
no one told me that the gb was all powerful and tolerate no dissention.
that if i spoke to a d/f person i would get disfellowshipped.. no one told me in my marriage bed there were rules if broken d/f shipping resulted.. i was told my brothers would die or care for me.
Thanks ......Notoneoftheboys excellent post
i was never told before i got baptised that i would loose my family if i got disfellowshipped.. no one told me i would get disfellowshipped if i had a blood transfusion.
no one told me that the gb was all powerful and tolerate no dissention.
that if i spoke to a d/f person i would get disfellowshipped.. no one told me in my marriage bed there were rules if broken d/f shipping resulted.. i was told my brothers would die or care for me.
I'm with you Sail Away ..... all this crap that we clearly see today, was not the focus. We 'studied' the Paradise book, and got baptised within months because of the assured1975 Armageddon/paradise campaign!
Because we could ask any question and voice any doubts at that time, why should we think getting dunked would change all that. Well change it did .........immediately!
Imaging how far witnesses would get if they knocked on the door and told the truth! Knock knock................goodmorning, we are here to share the good news that if you study with us, we will break-up your family and no one will talk to you ever again! Unless you say you are sorry and spend 1 or 2 years sitting at the back of the hall in silence! You must throw your children away if they break the rules and hate them & call them mentally diseased!
Who would ever think that would ever happen, Many don't know because with a huge smile on their wt faces,they hide all that stuff under their skirts!
clarity
warning: this is rather lengthy.
i thought i would post this information that i took with me to my judicial committee.
the elders promised that we would talk about everything that was bothering me, yet, we ended up talking about less than 10% of it.
WF... love that Apostate Proverb, should be a bumper sticker!
warning: this is rather lengthy.
i thought i would post this information that i took with me to my judicial committee.
the elders promised that we would talk about everything that was bothering me, yet, we ended up talking about less than 10% of it.
Wow! Fabulous solid information that you put together. Thanks for posting it. Yes I did start skimming after about 4 minutes but did reach the ending! ;-) Do I still get a high5.
You must have just blown their minds, bet they couldn't get away fast enough! hahah
You put them to shame my friend!
clarity
let the merging begin!!!.
to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.
re: fully utilizing kingdom hall auditoriums.
Oh how clever .........push for donations to build "much needed" KHs and after they sucker-in and skim off all the millions ........... change their tune to "you fools can just scrunch up & start sharing the KH's we already gave you with all our undeserved kindness!" Oh ...and keep sending more dough.
Because we just want to "conserve donated funds".
in the article on the guardian ( http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/14/jehovahs-witnesses-evangelism-church-god-armageddon ) mentioned in another thread, there's this quote of mark omalley, who is assigned to the public information desk at the jehovahs witness uk centre in north london.
we now have more than 165,000 [literature] carts on the streets in over 50 countries.
it gives us visibility and availability.
Knocking on doors put witnesses up close & personal with the householder. There you are face to face ........now what? You must speak! Your brain must put out information. You must make some sense and be able to explain & show how you are right etc.
Cart stuff ....not so much. IF asked a question ....just refer them to jw.org.
NEWS FLASH .... watchtower crap is totally unexplainable now! Wt had to put distance btw the dub & worldly persons! They even stand away from the bloody cart!!!!! Not up close & personal anymore ....... because Watchtower doesn't want to get caught out...NO ONE CAN UNDERSTAND or EXPLAIN wt crap anymore!
clarity
i served for years as an elder in london ontario.
finally stepped aside because of the old boy network, elders covering up for one another, practice of elders and their wives party times with excessive use of alcohol.
the elders families getting slaps on the wrist for major sins.
OOOH ...sounds like you were just dismissed or something along that line! Maybe Doc is looking out for you and doesn't want you to waste anymore time on watchtower! Well none of us should dwell too long on it... but love your post, sounds like your experiences are pretty interesting. As a woman I was not privy to a whole bunch of 'old boy stuff'. So after waking-up it has been quite a peek into this exclusive club. It kind of levels the playing field to hear the truth about these leaders, elders, princes', dukes etc.
clarity