Hi you guys ........so nice to 'see' you again! Don't think it was flipper's ...... someone in England maybe.
Thanks for the link though
big hello again to all.
there was an old thread, many pages long, where we could say where we lived in the world.. many just put the country but others told a bit about their hometowns.. i cannot seem to find it and just wondering if this still exists ....blondie maybe??.
now that there are so many of us, it might be pretty fantastic to know how many potential friends we have living in our areas.
Hi you guys ........so nice to 'see' you again! Don't think it was flipper's ...... someone in England maybe.
Thanks for the link though
big hello again to all.
there was an old thread, many pages long, where we could say where we lived in the world.. many just put the country but others told a bit about their hometowns.. i cannot seem to find it and just wondering if this still exists ....blondie maybe??.
now that there are so many of us, it might be pretty fantastic to know how many potential friends we have living in our areas.
Big hello again to all
There was an old thread, many pages long, where we could say where we lived in the world.
Many just put the Country but others told a bit about their hometowns.
I cannot seem to find it and just wondering if this still exists ....Blondie maybe??
Now that there are so many of us, it might be pretty fantastic to know how many potential friends we have living in our areas.
thank you ....
clarity
just had a wild conspiracy theory.
get your tin hats everyone.
what if this mass letter writing is all a bethel conspiracy to increase declining service hours?
We were commanded instructed to write letters to the Malawi leaders in the 1970's, when those pitiful bros/sis were being beat up & raped!
One big reason this fiasco was perpetrated on these jws was to deflect the awful truth that 1975 was a lie. Watchtower needed a new distraction to keep the mind controlled dubs in.
This letter writing campaign will keep their minds off the Royal Commission and child abuse in general.
They may have other new light that they want to .....just slip in also!
my 2 cents
my spouse and i were talking about something that was written last year (thinking about spring time maybe) that was in a letter read to the elders only talking about warwick and it mentioned - or hinted at maybe - that the righteous resurrected of old would have rooms made there (ya know, like carrying on the whole beth sarim idea again).
at first i thought this info was in a watchtower, but couldn't find it and that's when honey thought it was in a letter instead and might not have been public info.
does this ring a bell for anyone?
Thinker .......you may be thinking of Guy Pierce's talk about the new headquarters....... this may be what you are looking for.
This is some of Cedars writings as far as I remember.
http://ex-jw.com/governing-body-admits-doubts-over-new-headquarters-plans
8 months df'd.
loving a life of freedom.
however, my family are all shunning me.
"....in the last days ... men will be disloyal, having no natural affection....."
NO NATURAL AFFECTION ......... the GB says "they are still roving about" trying to figure out what natural affection is.
So PE, don't break your heart over these un-natural people,. Unless they open their eyes and see these horrid rules for what they are, then they and the GB will be ........"always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth." 2tim 3
clarity
how long until wt has flip flopped its way back to anything of the faith many of us knew?
who are the now dead ones giving evidence of their non captivity to babylon etc?
i would not recognise what goes on in a kh now and i was in since 60s when we had firm beliefs, now being eroded little by little.
The crap that wt spews out now is so ridiculous that for a 'dub brain' all it does is cause more frantic denial.
Like a child believes if they cover their eyes ... no one sees them!
So too, these poor hamstrung souls blindly trudge on not daring to think.
Not caring what 'truth' is spoken today.... they forget quickly yesterdays GB lies.
They don't care ....look at all their friends. 8 million can't be wrong ...can they!
They can now dance on kh platforms and sounds like brothers have 'permission' to grow beards ... so all is well in jdub land!
clarity
i was a 4th gen born in.my adult children were the 5th.
my mother was one of the newly'anointed' we have all left.
i have been lurking since october.i was really too terrified someone would find out who i was and what would happen.well we are out now so here is a part of my story.
Coming to the site kind of late...sorry I missed your wonderful news that you all escaped. The disgusting works of the watchtower is maddening. Sorry for all this bad stuff and good for you, protecting our children is what a good person does...Christian or otherwise!
Notalone and family welcome to your freedom!
Wishing you bright sunny days ahead.
clarity
it's no secret that both remaining a jw or leaving the wts can take a toll on mental health.
some will suffer from depression and ultimately some will have thoughts of suicide and a few will succumb to those.. but i don't recall ever seeing any hard stats or studies on it though.
i'm sure we all know of some people who have committed suicide but i don't know if, because you may have loose association with a much larger pool of people through the religion, that this only seems higher or maybe not be actually higher than the general population.. what i mean is, you go to a kh here there maybe 100-150 people, you attend circuit and district conventions with many tens of thousands - if any one person commits suicide then you likely hear about it and it becomes part of the anecdotal 'evidence' that is then put forward as a fact that there is a higher rate ... but is there?.
We do know that Watchtower has a vey large broom that can whisk away even the nastiest of events.
It is hard to nail down statistics about suicide but ... all I know is that in my first 22 years of life I had never even heard of suicide.
After joining the WT, within 3 months a sweet young man who I knew personally, killed himself. He was being groomed to be more active in the congregation. Don't think they had a name for that then.
As the years rolled on there were more who buckled under the weight of the pressure, guilt and obligation of the watchtower cult.
So just in my former 'circles' of jw acquaintances, I still hear of it.
clarity
the watchtower (study edition) april 2017 .
“you must pay your vows to jehovah.”—matt.
5:33.. * to all intents and purposes, he presented himself as one who was wholly dedicated to god.
Wow ...wt boggles the mind. Which is their intent I am sure.
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"It's weird. They'll have an article about how the GB is imperfect and roving about in the darkness then something like this."
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It is weird Nik, but what it sounds like is that they are lining up the poor sheep to do a collective Throw Them Under the Bus move.
Blame someone else as they are backing away.
They have failed miserably as spiritual leaders and they know it.
They have already distanced themselves legally ie: Guy Pearce(sp) & through hiding in numerous corporations.
The GB are now practically screaming that they are not inspired ..... so mistakes are not our fault ...
We are "still roving about", they say...so all this shit is Not OUR fault!!
OK ...who is to blame ..... all you little Sheep of course!
And don't think you can walk away because you made a VOW TO JEHOVAH ! Forever & ever! Ha ha.
Omg ..... millions of nice people are now backed against a wall. Stuck!
I can imagine the JW rates of suicide will be going up.
Millions want out .....but they still fear Armageddon. It is stuck in their minds and they are terrified! They know something is wrong but still think wt has the only TRUTH.
That is why those who have woken up .... still try to help them see that this is just another cult and it is all BS.
clarity
what happened to these guys.
i remember chatting and sparring with these guys years ago.
i read on here that onacruise passed away (craig) that was a shame he was a good man, and his ex wife kate.
As for the rest of you rabid dirty apostate heartless scoundrels......well, I might glance at you in the back of the kingdom hall, and maybe chuck you a sideways glance (and a creme egg if it's near easter)
Hey Scottie, your assumption that any of us is sitting in a kingdum hall is idiotic.... surely you jest !
Other than that you can take your sideways glance & your crème egg and shove it!