I just had a totally "in" relative excitedly call me and tell me all about it. They visited with someone who attended the annual meeting and got the scoop.
So, yes. It's confirmed.
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A big shift in the world is about to happen......
by EndofMysteries ini don't want to deceive anyone and i have to clarify a few things so i'm sorry this is going to be a lot more vague then you want.
infact if you do not already realize or also feel something is about to happen as in the title, then move along, it will be a month or 2 before i update this.
it's not my intention to annoy anybody, i am too uncomfortable to post any details because it's too new and i need to verify things, and i am also feeling responsible to give a subtle warning, that it might be something somebody needs to see.
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So, the real question is: did the Society make people like this insane, or were they drawn to the WT because they were already insane?
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The Governing Body has to Become the Faithful & Discreet Slave
by Mickey mouse inthe growing ranks of the anointed are a threat to their power.
today's watchtower made it clear that jehovah uses the governing body, no mention of the faithful & discreet slave.. i think they need new light on this in the next year or two..
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Do "belongings" that are not domestics need to be fed?
They could tie it into the Samaritan woman. The "belongings" don't need to be fed more than the crumbs that fall off the table from the "domestics" getting their food.
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Matt 24:45-47 The faithful slave refers ONLY to Governing Body. Does this make sense?
by MC RubberMallet inaccording to 2 reports thus far from 2012 annual meeting, this is new light.
some may need more time and verification to post an opinion on this, but i plan on showing the scriptural fallacies of this "new light".
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Ha, wow. The day's text can't possibly be a concidence. How far in advance do they plan these Annual Meetings?
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Matt 24:45-47 The faithful slave refers ONLY to Governing Body. Does this make sense?
by MC RubberMallet inaccording to 2 reports thus far from 2012 annual meeting, this is new light.
some may need more time and verification to post an opinion on this, but i plan on showing the scriptural fallacies of this "new light".
comments?.
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Yep. I think this is one more (perhaps the last) stop on the road before offically making the 144,000 a figurative number.
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Help please, The original letters on both sides of rutherford taking over by force, and court documents/etc of the real reason he was jailed
by EndofMysteries inanybody know offhand where i can download those?
part of my project :) i think he just printed in the golden globe or something about the takeover, if so i have access to that.
but unsure where to get the pamphlet the brothers unjustly kicked out had published.
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It can be really dry, but I highly reccommend reading Rutherford's testimony in the trial. There are some absolute gems in there.
The one that stood out to me was where, while trying to make himself appear to respect the military, he says that it had always been his dream since a kid to lead his own army.
Kind of puts his mentality and how he ran things in perspective, doesn't it?
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So would this be THE big change in doctrine that we had heard rumored was coming this year? The one that they were going to have to prep the elders for in the special KMS at the end of the year?
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Help please, The original letters on both sides of rutherford taking over by force, and court documents/etc of the real reason he was jailed
by EndofMysteries inanybody know offhand where i can download those?
part of my project :) i think he just printed in the golden globe or something about the takeover, if so i have access to that.
but unsure where to get the pamphlet the brothers unjustly kicked out had published.
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Didn't have anything to do with property. There were a handful of pages in The Finished Mystery that came out very strongly against patriotism and basically said a true Christian would not enlist in the military. I'm greatly paraphrasing, but that's the import of it. At the time, during WWI, the US had passed the Espionage Act of 1917. This criminialized any attempt to disrupt the recrutment efforts of the military. The government interpreted those passages in Rutherford's book as an attempt to prevent enlistment in the army. They went after Rutherford and some of the other directors for it.
What the society doesn't like to talk about, and you can discover in the trial transcripts, is that Rutherford actually tried to capitulate and willingly censored The Finished Mystery by having those few pages physically removed from copies of the book, and not including it in further printings. However, a good number of them had already been distributed and the government went after them anyway.
They also were never "exonerated" of the charges like the Society likes to claim today. They got the verdirct set aside on appeal over a procedural matter. The war ended shortly thereafter, and since the war ferver that led to the Espionage Act had died down, it wasn't worth the government's time to proceed with a new trial and they dropped the charges.
In hindsight, it probably would have been overturned by the Supreme Court over First Amendment issues if it had made it that far, anyway.
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What you should keep in mind about apologists like Recovery, Alice, etc.
by Fencing ini don't post here much, but read often.
seen quite a few jw apologists and trolls come and go.
they are almost always successful at getting a good number of people here upset and riled up, leading to personal attacks.
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I don't post here much, but read often. Seen quite a few JW apologists and trolls come and go. They are almost always successful at getting a good number of people here upset and riled up, leading to personal attacks. But you need to remember a couple important things about people like that, before you unload on them.
- No active, happy Witness would willingly join or participate in an "apostate" forum. If they're here, it's because they already have very serious doubts.
- If they really are active Witnesses, they are already knowingly disobeying the GB in a big way just by being here. Think about that.
- If they are obsessively arguing and trying to come up with apologetic argument after argument to refute every little point, they're really arguing with themselves and trying to chase their own doubts away.
So, instead of getting worked up with these people, chasing them down rabbit holes, insulting them, trying to beat sense into them, remember that each one of these "trolls" is really an apostate-in-training. They're going through that extremely difficult time when the congnative dissonance first starts to become too much to bear. Instead of looking down on them with disdain and hate, think of them with compassion and some pity and remember how lost and confused you were when you first starting having serious doubts.
Anyway, just a couple thoughts I had after watching this whole Recovery drama unfold.
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Who On This Site Would You Like To Meet?
by minimus inthere are a lot of interesting people that frequent this site.. sometimes, we get an idea of what the posters are really like in "real life".
and i'm sure i could be easily surprised by some that you think might be strong personalities because of their board presence, and in reality, they might be shy in a face to face setting.. i would enjoy meeting simon.
simon used to be terribly annoyed by my posting and now i think he's accepted with tolerance my being here.. farkel seems like a grouchy cantankerous fellow but i think he'd be very interesting company!.
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AllTimeJeff and Awakened At Gilead. Anyone who can go through the heavy indoctrination of Gilead, sacrafice so much by going to a dangerous country, and still overcome cognative dissonance enough to get out must be a fascinating person to talk to.