Posts by Fencing

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What woke you up?

by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

in march of 2014, i was a very active jw, a ministerial servant, gave a public talk, was an attendant for the memorial, and one of 4 cleaning captains for an international convention of 40,000+ attendees.

so what woke me up?

an innocent comment from a co-worker about the candice conti court case rang a bell that could not be unrung.

Fencing

I think I subconsciously knew something was off for years. But I always avoided any "apostate" sites like the plague. The turning point for me was an article posted on Fark.com several years ago. It was article in a paper about an upcoming District Convention in Florida, and in the comments I happened across someone posting how the entire JW theology was based on the year of 607 BCE, and how not a single historian, scholar, or expert agrees that Jerusalem was destroyed then. That they were literally the only people in the world who thought 607 was the correct year, and how everything else falls apart after that. I had never heard that before, and it really jarred me. Then someone posted a picture of the pyramid grave and talked about the pyramid measurements Russell was fond of. That lead me to immediately find and start reading Studies in the Scriptures. That's when I started discovering that so much of what the modern Society claimed about the original Bible Students' teachings was demonstrably wrong. And not just wrong, but intentionally misleading.

And I couldn't stop reading after that.

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The elders of the 1980s are now in their 60s and 70s

by truthseeker in

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having just come back from the uk and spoke with some witnesses to find out how my old congregation is doing, i realized i am now the age that my elders were when i was a kid.

and i wonder what the elders who are now in their 60s and 70s are thinking when they look in the mirror and an old face looks back at them.

many of the elders in my old hall are now retired.

Fencing

I know my parents used to recoil in horror when I mentioned I was saving for retirement because The End was coming Real Soon Now, so saving for the future was a sign of a lack of faith. Now within the last few years they seem to think it's a good idea I have a 401k. So their outlook on the future has definitely changed now that they are dealing with retirement relying almost solely on social security.

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What were you favorite book in the organization? I know what you're thinking...LOL!

by BashfulAshG in

what were *your favorite *books in the organization?.

out of all of those books, i liked "mankind's search for god.

" however, it appears to me that this book is incredibly obscure and no one recalls studying it during the old book study format.

Fencing

I do vaguely remember studying Mankind's Search For God in the bookstudy. It must have been a year or two after it was released, and I don't think it was ever studied again. Honestly, it's hard to remember any book that was studied other than the Revelation book and Greatest Man, which were studied over and over and over again throughout the 90s.

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Geoffrey Jackson - Royal Commission Live Hearing Now!

by LostinJapan in

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https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

Fencing

Oh snap, he just brought up blood.

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Geoffrey Jackson Royal Commission update

by umbertoecho in

hello people.

the rc will still go ahead with it's live stream on friday 14th august.

however, it seem that it will be a video link.

Fencing

That's a long, roundabout way to acknowledge that they expect the branch to obey the governing body.

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Geoffrey Jackson Royal Commission update

by umbertoecho in

hello people.

the rc will still go ahead with it's live stream on friday 14th august.

however, it seem that it will be a video link.

Fencing

Just admitted that doctrinal decisions CAN be made by majority vote. I don't think that's ever been admitted publicly before.

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

by The Rebel in

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so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

Fencing

I have to say, the insane asylum of the ex-JW world rarely disappoints. I guess this is what happens when an entire group of people are stripped of all critical thinking skills.

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She spoke about Jehovah’s Witness abuse, and her home was vandalized

by greenhornet in

https://www.revealnews.org/article/she-spoke-about-jehovahs-witness-abuse-and-her-home-was-vandalized/.

the police are saying this is a hate crime.. it sounds like a lot of of jws are really mad .

Fencing

Yeah, this sounds fake. No witness I ever knew would ever write something like that. For one, they don't refer to the organization as "Watchtower". They would put "The Society" or "Jehovah". Also, this is far too bold for an active witness. Witness are trained to be extremely passive-aggressive.

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New letter, re: Fully Utilizing Kingdom Hall Auditoriums

by suavojr in

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let the merging begin!!!.

to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.

re: fully utilizing kingdom hall auditoriums.

Fencing

How often does this happen? Standing room only at a K.H.? I remember this in the early 1970s locally, but when I stopped attending meetings in 2006 the K.H. was 2/3 empty for mid-week meetings and about 1/2 empty on Sunday; I doubt there has been a boom in meeting attendance since.

I was in a congregation in the 90s that had a hall which seated at least 140, and every sunday the main auditorium and the library were full, and we were having to put out rows of folding chairs behind the regular seats in the auditorium. They were split shortly afterwards.

But you're correct, I haven't seen attendance like that at a hall ever since.

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Changes for Volunteers at Conventions and Assemblies in Spain

by RayPublisher in

someone sent me this from jwtalk.

a guy on there just posted this regarding changes to the way the jws volunteer at conventions in spain and the changes seem fairly major:.

we had a special meeting today called a training session for volunteers.

Fencing

I never understood why the Society, about 15-20 or so years ago in the US, started insisting on packing, shipping and setting up their own sound equipment in arenas and other venues with perfectly good sound systems that they could easily tie into. Seemed like a huge waste of money and time for no determinable benefit.