That video made me sick, then I watched the original 5 min version (below)... Then I really felt quite sick
Here's the original 5 minute version
ok guys, i still havent' gotten this embedding thing down.
here's the address http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hsqpj0cqeq .
can someone put the video in here for me?
That video made me sick, then I watched the original 5 min version (below)... Then I really felt quite sick
Here's the original 5 minute version
about a year ago i went through a mild meltdown.
it hit me fast i had panic attacks and became angry with all the control in my life.
(being a jw) i had just found out i was being screwed on a real estate development project by another self righteous jw i have known for a long time but this was a big loss (about 4 months pay plus expenses).
Welcome Evidently Apostate
I too am new here, it's a great place to find new friends learn more about the cult we use to be in, help our trapped loved ones etc...
This forum soothes my nerves/soul, we need this type of comfort after being in that CULT!
3Mozzies
I second Flippers post:
Pull up a chair, pour yourself a drink and enjoy the experiences and info here. Hang in there, things get better as time goes along away from the high control of the WT organization.
luke 21:8. .
american standard version (asv).
he said, watch out that you dont get led astray, for many will come in my name, saying, i am he , and, the time is at hand.
wasblind wrote:
3Mozzies and Peacedog,
y'all are HOT,
...well...thank you I do work out you know
Later wasblind wrote:
i meant to say the two of you qouted, sorry
y'all just got me so excited
Oh ... you made my day for a while
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Seriously folks, thanks for adding to this post, great comments and reasoning.
It's stands out so clearly to all of us because we are not in it, we are not being deceived (anymore).
Yet it is so sad that some genuine JWs will never see it because the FDS wont let them.
3Mozzies
i cannot take credit for any of the gems below but i did want to polish and organize them.
much of the information was borrowed from this thread.
if you can come up with any more, please post them.. the bible does not ban birthdays.
FACT: Job was a righteous man before God.
His sons used to hold feasts in their homes on their birthdays, and they would invite their three sisters to eat and drink with them.
Job 1:4 (TNIV)
His sons used to go and feast in the house of each on his day (birthday) in turn, and they invited their three sisters to eat and drink with them.
Job 1:4 (AMP)
His sons went and held a feast in the house of each one on his birthday; and they sent and called for their three sisters to eat and to drink with them.
Job 1:4 (WEB)
Why do we disfellowship people if they ever decide to celebrate a simple birthday?
Didn't the angels rejoice when Jesus was born?
The bible says NOTHING about forbidding us to celebrate birthdays yet it clearly states that 'Gluttony is a sin' shouldn't we then disfellowship people that pig out on food because the bible says so?
(1 Corinthians 4:6) Do not go beyond the things that are written.
(Matthew 15:8-9) ‘This people honors me with their lips, yet their heart is far removed from me. It is in vain that they keep worshiping me, because they teach commands of men as doctrines.
3Mozzies
luke 21:8. .
american standard version (asv).
he said, watch out that you dont get led astray, for many will come in my name, saying, i am he , and, the time is at hand.
He did so at Matthew 24:4-5 as well:
Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many.
Spot on peacedog!
Well well ... which Bible translation did the WT Corp have the rights to for many years?
Answer: The Emphatic Diaglott - 1865 by Benjamin Wilson
Let's read Matthew 24:4-5 from the The Emphatic Diaglott
And answering the Jesus said to them: Take heed, not any one you may deceive.
Many for shall come in the name of me, saying: I am the Anointed; and many they shall deceive.
Link to that Bible HERE.
3Mozzies
luke 21:8. .
american standard version (asv).
he said, watch out that you dont get led astray, for many will come in my name, saying, i am he , and, the time is at hand.
Did you get that from the back of the Cetnar's book, Questions for Jehovah's Witnesses?
No, as I've never heard of that book.
I love going through different Bible translations and when I saw "The time is at hand" in the ESV Bible, it hit me that Russel wrote a book with the same title, then I searched other translations to see which other Bibles used the same phrase.
Apart from the Bibles I have, I also use this site to search different Bible translations: www.youversion.com
3Mozzies
luke 21:8. .
american standard version (asv).
he said, watch out that you dont get led astray, for many will come in my name, saying, i am he , and, the time is at hand.
Luke 21:8
American Standard Version (ASV)
And he said, Take heed that ye be not led astray: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am he; and, The time is at hand: go ye not after them.
Amplified Bible (AMP)
And He said, Be on your guard and be careful that you are not led astray; for many will come in My name [appropriating to themselves the name Messiah which belongs to Me], saying, I am He! and, The time is at hand! Do not go out after them.
English Standard Version (ESV)
And he said, See that you are not led astray. For many will come in my name, saying, I am he! and, The time is at hand! Do not go after them.
World English Bible (WEB)
He said, “Watch out that you don’t get led astray, for many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am he ,’ and, ‘The time is at hand.’ Therefore don’t follow them.
Pretty interesting given the fact that Russell published a book with the same title.
3Mozzies
what's actually the difference between this .... .
... and this picture?.
why is this marcher evil .... .
What's actually the difference between this ...
... and this picture?
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The top is fake and that group is harmless.
The bottom picture is real and these people are very dangerous!
They will brainwash you into believing that getting a life saving blood transfusion will kill you in their God's eyes. Many have died in the name of this dangerous 'Printing Religion' They force their views onto you and they annoy the world with their stupid preaching/propaganda work. If you happen to fall under their spell and join, you might even get sexually molested by one of their so called leaders/elders. Get lost!
Nut cases, they should be banned, why doesn't the world follow Russia's lead and ban dangerous cults?
3Mozzies
i want to start reading the bible more but i do not want to use the nwt.
the fact that the nwt took so many liberties makes me a little gunshy about other translations, which one would you recommend?.
-sab.
I really respect your interest in having a Bible that keeps God's name in it, I feel the same.
I thought the same about the NWT until I started researching more into it, I bought a Interlinear Bible and found that the KJV & NKJV are very close to the original Greek.
I own a few bibles and enjoy the 'New King James Version' the best, almost spot on to the original Greek.
The NWT fails in my eyes. Just my 2 cents here . . .
We are all free to read whatever we like :)
3Mozzies
i want to start reading the bible more but i do not want to use the nwt.
the fact that the nwt took so many liberties makes me a little gunshy about other translations, which one would you recommend?.
-sab.
the NWT is the only translation that restores the divine name Jehovah to its rightful place in the old testament.
There are 3 other Bibles that I know of that restore the name of God in the OT.
ASV (American Standard Version) uses Jehovah (not the NEW version)
WEB (World English Bible) uses YAHWEH
Jerusalem Bible uses YAHWEH (not the NEW version)
Reason why the New Jerusalem Bible replaced Yahweh with Lord:
The literary quality of this version is admirable. Among the English stylists who worked with the translators was J.R.R. Tolkien, the famous English novelist and literary critic. Unfortunately, the Hebrew tetragrammaton or divine name (represented as "Lord" in the New Testament) is everywhere rendered "Yahweh," which spoils the literary effect of many passages, especially in the Psalms.
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YAHWEH is a more accurate translation of the Tetragram
See below from page 23 of The Kingdom Interlinear-Greek Scriptures 1969 (Produced by the WT Corp)
3Mozzies